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Thread started 03/06/18 7:18pm

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Stormy Daniels sues Trump, says ‘hush agreement’ invalid because he never signed

https://www.nbcnews.com/p...he-n854246

click on that 28 page pdf link within to court document.



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uh ohhhhhh lol

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Reply #1 posted 03/06/18 8:50pm

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lol
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Reply #2 posted 03/06/18 8:51pm

SoulAlive

Trump doesn’t have a presidency....it’s more like a crazy circus nuts
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Reply #3 posted 03/07/18 1:41am

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"They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday's just as bad,
They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday's just as bad,
Wednesday's worse, and Thursday's also.....SAD!"

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Reply #4 posted 03/07/18 2:00am

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Daniels has said she had sex with Trump after they met at a Lake Tahoe golf tournament in 2006, shortly after his wife, Melania, gave birth to their son Barron. Karen McDougal, Playboy's 1998 Playmate of the year, has said that she, too, had a tryst with Trump at this event.

hmmm disbelief eek

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Reply #5 posted 03/07/18 2:08am

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this schiess is better than reruns of the back in a day t.v. series 'dynasty.
check this out.

Stormy Daniels' Friend Turned Down Threesome with Donald Trump: He's No Brad Pitt
: http://people.com/politic...threesome/
February 2018
On a July night in 2006, adult film star Alana Evans tells PEOPLE she received a call from friend and fellow porn star Stormy Daniels. On the line with Daniels was Donald Trump, the pair begging Evans to join them in Trump’s Lake Tahoe hotel suite while they were in town for the American Century Celebrity Golf championship.
“Donald is talking through the phone to me, he is saying, ‘Oh, come on, Alana, come hang out, let’s have some fun, let’s party,’ ” Evans says in a recent issue of PEOPLE.

She turned down what she believed was an invitation for a threesome.
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federal judge says, "there is evidence." : https://www.yahoo.com/new...itics.html
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Reply #6 posted 03/07/18 4:13am

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if she signed it and not Trump then HE would have the out. I was asked to sign one and I did not... and a year later I got a call and I was asked to go sign one... and I was all "no thanks." And I guess I knew some stuff...but by now nothing at all worth anything...

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Reply #7 posted 03/07/18 4:16am

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wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?

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Reply #8 posted 03/07/18 5:42am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?

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If she does get a deal (which she probably already has), I'm sure it would be worth more than $130K. lol

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Reply #9 posted 03/07/18 5:47am

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Musicslave said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?

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If she does get a deal (which she probably already has), I'm sure it would be worth more than $130K. lol

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that is what I am saying... she has a deal... i am thinking she not only has no case...but will lose the money too... at least that is what I hope. (which has nothing to do with Trump but with the fact that she agreed and is now in material violation of the deal. Trump not having signed it will likely not be a bases for her to get out of her agreement)

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Reply #10 posted 03/07/18 6:06am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Musicslave said:

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If she does get a deal (which she probably already has), I'm sure it would be worth more than $130K. lol

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that is what I am saying... she has a deal... i am thinking she not only has no case...but will lose the money too... at least that is what I hope. (which has nothing to do with Trump but with the fact that she agreed and is now in material violation of the deal. Trump not having signed it will likely not be a bases for her to get out of her agreement)

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How can the agreement be valid if all parties involved didn't sign it? I think you're just projecting what you want to happen. Donald has been known for successfully intimidating people through lawsuits and the like. He probably thought he could distance himself from her/it by not signing. But without his signature, how is the agreement valid? She didn't present the agreement to him. He brought it to her for a reason.

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Why do you hope she loses the money too?

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There is no deal if both parties involved hadn't signed in agreement with the terms of the deal. There were places for him to sign that were left blank. If it was going to be a one-sided deal, there wouldn't have been places for him sign or initial.

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How can two walk together unless they be agreed?

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Reply #11 posted 03/07/18 6:22am

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Musicslave said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

that is what I am saying... she has a deal... i am thinking she not only has no case...but will lose the money too... at least that is what I hope. (which has nothing to do with Trump but with the fact that she agreed and is now in material violation of the deal. Trump not having signed it will likely not be a bases for her to get out of her agreement)

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How can the agreement be valid if all parties involved didn't sign it? I think you're just projecting what you want to happen. Donald has been known for successfully intimidating people through lawsuits and the like. He probably thought he could distance himself from her/it by not signing. But without his signature, how is the agreement valid? She didn't present the agreement to him. He brought it to her for a reason.

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Why do you hope she loses the money too?

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There is no deal if both parties involved hadn't signed in agreement with the terms of the deal. There were places for him to sign that were left blank. If it was going to be a one-sided deal, there wouldn't have been places for him sign or initial.

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How can two walk together unless they be agreed?

no projecting at all. and she was the one bound to not talk she was the one that was paid off. So I am not sure (and neither do you) and I presented it as my belief. (even in the first post i said him not having signed would give tump an out but he has no reason to do so).

based on your accusing him of "intimidating people" if either of us is projecting it is you.


Why do I want her to lose the money and be bound by her agreement? because she agreed to it and she accepted the money.


you may be correct maybe she can win...but because SHE signed it she agreed and she accepted it so she is bound by it.


contract law is funny like that.


And my problem with her is she is trying to back out of it because she wants a better deal.

As much as a snake as trump is... she is also one.

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Reply #12 posted 03/07/18 6:55am

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Breaking News. American President accused of sleeping around and cheating on wife.

Seriously, what else is new? I think I'd be more surprised if he WASN'T banging whores every chance he got. Compared to what else he's done since moving into the White House, this is a minor infraction.
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Reply #13 posted 03/07/18 8:17am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?


Stormy Daniels would give up $130G payment to share her Trump secrets

http://www.nydailynews.co...1.3860511

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Reply #14 posted 03/07/18 8:19am

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Paul Street is right, Trump getting elected was a good thing after all. He is so corrupt it is easy to go after the whole GOP and soon kill Conservatism for good.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #15 posted 03/07/18 8:22am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Paul Street is right, Trump getting elected was a good thing after all. He is so corrupt it is easy to go after the whole GOP and soon kill Conservatism for good.

and you think that is a good thing?

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Reply #16 posted 03/07/18 8:22am

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If we'reall going to play Internet Lawyers, then let me join in.

First of all, a contract is by definition between two or more parties. You can't have a contract with yourself. Therefore, if a contract that names two specific parties is never signed by one of those parties, then there is no contract. Feel free to watch any episode of "Paper Chase" if you doubt me.

So the contract in which Stormy Daniels a/k/a Stephanie Clifford a/k/a Peggy Peterson is no longer enforceable; therefore, even though she signed it sheis no longer bound by it. That's very basic.

The only way anyone could argue Stormy Daniels is bound by that contract is if "David Dennison" signs it, or if "David Dennison"'s lawyer produces a copy that "David Dennison" signed and for some reason never sent to Stormy Daniels. This, of course, would mean that the identity of "David Dennison" would have to be revealed.

If that were to happen, our genius president would lose his ability of denial, and would probably also lose his wife. So we aren't going to see "David Dennison"'s signature on that contract, ever. My opinion but then again, I've watched most episodes of "LA Law".

Now, on to the money!

Hell NO she doesn't have to return it! Who paid her? Was it "David Dennison"?

Nope!

It was that genius lawyer Michael Cohen. He paid her out of his own pocket, and has not been reimbursed. He has made that VERY clear. So - is Michael Cohen a party to this contract?

Nope!

Well, not unless he can prove he's "David Dennison", LOL. But he still has the problem of having not signed the contract.

If someone just gives you $130,000 for no apparent reason, and there is no contractual relationship with the person who gave you the $130,000 then you do not have to return that $130,000 - ever. What controlling document would require you to do so?

None!

So I - a student of TV law going all the way back to "Perry Mason" but not including "Boston Legal" which, for some reason, I never watched - have proven that: (1) the agreement is null and void and Stormy Daniels is free to tell or sell her story all she wants; and (2) she does not have to return Michael Cohen's money.

What we have here is a case of incredibly shitty lawyering. And honestly, that's what's going to hurt a guy like Michael Cohen more than anything.

You can call him a piece of shit; you can call him a bully; you can call him an asshole. He doesn't care.

But if the legal community calls him a shitty lawyer?

Ouch.

Case closed!

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Reply #17 posted 03/07/18 8:27am

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sexton said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?

Stormy Daniels would give up $130G payment to share her Trump secrets

http://www.nydailynews.co...1.3860511



She doesn't have to give up one cent of Michael Cohen's money. Not unless Michael Cohen can prove that either: (1) he is "David Dennison" and also has a copy of the contract where it's signed by him; or (2) he paid Stormy Daniels for a service that was not rendered.

Now, some Internet Lawyers - who clearly haven't seen as many episodes of "Ali McBeal" as I have - may try to assert that AHA! Cohen paid her to keep quiet and she didn't! Give back the money, girl!

Ahhhhh.....no. Not unless Cohen can show us that agreement. Without that, it's just a case of he said/porn actress said.

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Reply #18 posted 03/07/18 8:34am

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I think you are mistaken. once she signed it and took the money she accepted the terms. if for whatever reason trump did not that will not let her off the hook...just him.

NDAs are a different kind of agreement. She agreed to not talk for money she got hers she is bound by it. She can not say she did not accept the terms. Only he can. So unless he does then she can not argue there was no meeting of the minds and it would or could revert back to an oral contract. Oral contracts are hard to prove...unless there is a signed document and if one party did not sign it then only that party would have a claim. See you sign to say "I agree" she loses.

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Reply #19 posted 03/07/18 8:37am

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and it was notarized. I think that notary is about to lose that privilege.

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Reply #20 posted 03/07/18 8:44am

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RodeoSchro said:

sexton said:



She doesn't have to give up one cent of Michael Cohen's money. Not unless Michael Cohen can prove that either: (1) he is "David Dennison" and also has a copy of the contract where it's signed by him; or (2) he paid Stormy Daniels for a service that was not rendered.

Now, some Internet Lawyers - who clearly haven't seen as many episodes of "Ali McBeal" as I have - may try to assert that AHA! Cohen paid her to keep quiet and she didn't! Give back the money, girl!

Ahhhhh.....no. Not unless Cohen can show us that agreement. Without that, it's just a case of he said/porn actress said.

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she will have to give it back no matter what. she can not win the case. What she is trying to do is lose and be forced to pay it back and have the NDA tossed so she can get an even larger payday.


again each sig is saying "I accept" once she signed she was at his mercy. She has no way out.

but I think her hope is to lose and pay off whatever and then do a book deal in time for 2020.

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Reply #21 posted 03/07/18 8:46am

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and keep in mind no matter what happens to her the damage is done to him.

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Reply #22 posted 03/07/18 9:17am

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RodeoSchro said:

If we'reall going to play Internet Lawyers, then let me join in.

First of all, a contract is by definition between two or more parties. You can't have a contract with yourself. Therefore, if a contract that names two specific parties is never signed by one of those parties, then there is no contract. Feel free to watch any episode of "Paper Chase" if you doubt me.

So the contract in which Stormy Daniels a/k/a Stephanie Clifford a/k/a Peggy Peterson is no longer enforceable; therefore, even though she signed it sheis no longer bound by it. That's very basic.

The only way anyone could argue Stormy Daniels is bound by that contract is if "David Dennison" signs it, or if "David Dennison"'s lawyer produces a copy that "David Dennison" signed and for some reason never sent to Stormy Daniels. This, of course, would mean that the identity of "David Dennison" would have to be revealed.

If that were to happen, our genius president would lose his ability of denial, and would probably also lose his wife. So we aren't going to see "David Dennison"'s signature on that contract, ever. My opinion but then again, I've watched most episodes of "LA Law".

Now, on to the money!

Hell NO she doesn't have to return it! Who paid her? Was it "David Dennison"?

Nope!

It was that genius lawyer Michael Cohen. He paid her out of his own pocket, and has not been reimbursed. He has made that VERY clear. So - is Michael Cohen a party to this contract?

Nope!

Well, not unless he can prove he's "David Dennison", LOL. But he still has the problem of having not signed the contract.

If someone just gives you $130,000 for no apparent reason, and there is no contractual relationship with the person who gave you the $130,000 then you do not have to return that $130,000 - ever. What controlling document would require you to do so?

None!

So I - a student of TV law going all the way back to "Perry Mason" but not including "Boston Legal" which, for some reason, I never watched - have proven that: (1) the agreement is null and void and Stormy Daniels is free to tell or sell her story all she wants; and (2) she does not have to return Michael Cohen's money.

What we have here is a case of incredibly shitty lawyering. And honestly, that's what's going to hurt a guy like Michael Cohen more than anything.

You can call him a piece of shit; you can call him a bully; you can call him an asshole. He doesn't care.

But if the legal community calls him a shitty lawyer?

Ouch.

Case closed!

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I concur lol lol

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Reply #23 posted 03/07/18 9:32am

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sexton said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

wait! and if gets voided then she has to pay the money back...she must be going for a book deal?

Stormy Daniels would give up $130G payment to share her Trump secrets

http://www.nydailynews.co...1.3860511


Allright! The View women were floating that, not a very good payoff in the first place.

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Reply #24 posted 03/07/18 9:34am

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"They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday's just as bad,
They call it stormy Monday, but Tuesday's just as bad,
Wednesday's worse, and Thursday's also.....SAD!"

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Reply #25 posted 03/07/18 9:40am

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poppys said:

sexton said:


Allright! The View women were floating that, not a very good payoff in the first place.

she will have to pay it back

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Reply #26 posted 03/07/18 9:48am

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I love how there is not one word about this on the FOX website.

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Reply #27 posted 03/07/18 9:50am

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Only, she's the victim??

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Reply #28 posted 03/07/18 9:55am

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worst than just paying back the $120K... she will have to pay a million per violation.

her only hope is to if trump violated the agreement.

and if it goes to court they will ask her if she signed that agreement and if she was paid. and really no matter how she answers it is going to boil down to she agreed to the terms. (for her to win she would have to show she did not agree or sign)

i am telling you she is going to lose Bigly.


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Reply #29 posted 03/07/18 10:00am

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I love how there is not one word about this on the FOX website.



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