SuperFurryAnimal said:

PennyPurple said:

Can we please get back on topic of my thread?

The irony they are all acting like Jim Acosta!

you mean question and hoepfully CHALLENGE fake news and utter bullshit, and the fucking morons who spread it?
yes, and that is a good thing.
but whining pussies like that POS in office and his groupies can't handle it LMFAO pathetic wimps

poppys said:

Ghosting them and just replying to people that can actually discuss a topic is the only answer. Works better than this nonsense.

So, so true ....

OnlyNDaUsa said:

RodeoSchro said:

That orger has never understood the difference between a private company and the government.

BTW, the judge in this case was appointed by Donald Trump. The judge said in his remarks that he expects Acosta and CNN to prevail.

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[Edited 11/16/18 7:53am]

that is not at all the case.... and in this case... as I said it was not a violation of the first as CNN argued but of the 5th... So I am still correct in that matter. Just like I was on the ACA when I said the mandate as a fine was illegal... but would be okay as a tax... what I do not get is how a judge can just make up the argument for one side and rule on a basis that was never argued.


but I have almost never made that error... I bet you have 10 times more that i have.

My understanding is that the judge did not rule on the First Amendment arguments because he didn't need to. CNN had already prevailed on the Fifth Amendment arguments, so there was no need to go further.

If you have different information, please post it.

RodeoSchro said:

Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:

My understanding is that the judge did not rule on the First Amendment arguments because he didn't need to. CNN had already prevailed on the Fifth Amendment arguments, so there was no need to go further.

If you have different information, please post it.

https://www.theatlantic.c...ss/575479/ This article discusses the legal precedent set back in 1977 regarding the revocation of a journalists press pass by the Secret Service during the LBJ admin. The DC circuit court judge ruled in favor of the journalist based on the First Amendment.

I asked Only to post any information he had that supported his contention that he (Only) was right re: the judge's ruling/Acosta as it pertained to the First Amendment.

Your article did not address my request.

RodeoSchro said:

Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:

I asked Only to post any information he had that supported his contention that he (Only) was right re: the judge's ruling/Acosta as it pertained to the First Amendment.

Your article did not address my request.

I know, just thought it was interesting that a precedent had already been set. I shouldn't have made it a response to your quote ( which I believe is true, btw).

Thank you for the clarification.

ABC News

White House goes after Jim Acosta's press pass again as CNN seeks hearing

CNN’s chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta is once again under fire from the White House over his press pass, which was revoked earlier this month and temporarily restored by a...er Friday.

As it stands, Acosta is guaranteed use of his press pass to the White House through the end of the month. But the White House wasted no time informing Acosta of a “preliminary decision” to suspend his pass after that period is up. Lawyers for CNN responded Monday by filing for an emergency hearing the week after Thanksgiving, “or as soon thereafter as possible.”

poppys said:

ABC News

White House goes after Jim Acosta's press pass again as CNN seeks hearing

Nov 19, 2018, 12:33 PM ET

CNN’s chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta is once again under fire from the White House over his press pass, which was revoked earlier this month and temporarily restored by a...er Friday.

As it stands, Acosta is guaranteed use of his press pass to the White House through the end of the month. But the White House wasted no time informing Acosta of a “preliminary decision” to suspend his pass after that period is up. Lawyers for CNN responded Monday by filing for an emergency hearing the week after Thanksgiving, “or as soon thereafter as possible.”

The are idiots.

poppys said:

Good. That's quite a reversal from this morning... Trump did that only because he found out he would lose.

RodeoSchro said:

Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said: https://www.theatlantic.c...ss/575479/ This article discusses the legal precedent set back in 1977 regarding the revocation of a journalists press pass by the Secret Service during the LBJ admin. The DC circuit court judge ruled in favor of the journalist based on the First Amendment.

I asked Only to post any information [...]

what? and he didn't provide it? really?? say it ain't so!!

now what an unexpected turn of events! no one could expect, that once he is trapped in a corner, he would... well... just run for the hills. again LOL

the guy who always admits when he's wrong... what a pathetic predictable pussy LOL

[Edited 11/20/18 0:02am]

poppys said:

Good. That's quite a reversal from this morning... Trump did that only because he found out he would lose.

To be fair, he's had a bad week

To recap:

*The White House pulled Acosta's hard pass

*Acosta and CNN sued the White Hosue, ending up in a Trump-appointed judge's court

*OnlyNaDUsa said "CNN can talk to their lawyer but they got no case..."

*When challenged on that, OnlyNDaUsa said, "And so far I have yet to be proven wrong."

*After CNN and Acosta sued, OnlyNDaUsa said, "there is no case they can not win... it will be tossed"

*Seconding that, SuperFurryAnimal weighed in with his thoughts that OnlyNDaUsa was great at "Legal matters. Only is the legal expert at the org. He has never been wrong about the ruling in any court case even when a jury is involved."

*The case was not tossed

*When advised that CNN was preparing to sue certain White Hosue individuals personally, OnlyNDaUsa said, "there is no case they can not win... it will be tossed"

*The case was not tossed

*A hearing was held

*CNN and Acosta prevailed in obtaining a temporary injunction

*Acosta got his pass back on a temporary basis

*OnlyNDaUsa said, "Well seems i was wrong" but...

*OnlyNDaUsa said, "and even here i was speaking of a first amendment argument and on that, the judge agrees with me."

*In fact, the judge never addressed the First Amendment arguments, as CNN prevailed on the Fifth Amendment points, winning the case before the First Amendment arguments were ever debated in court

*After wasting much taxpayer money, the White House fully capitulated and completely restored Acosta's hard pass

Camileyun said:

RodeoSchro said:

I asked Only to post any information he had that supported his contention that he (Only) was right re: the judge's ruling/Acosta as it pertained to the First Amendment.

Your article did not address my request.

I know, just thought it was interesting that a precedent had already been set. I shouldn't have made it a response to your quote ( which I believe is true, btw).

from the bit you posted that case would not apply here. that person was denied on an arbitrary basis... there was a basis to ban jimmy but what the court said was there was no due process and no real standard.

and I am correct the current ruling said he could be banned if there was a set standard and a means of appeal.

^^

President Trump - acting increasingly like a despot - has now floated the idea of state-run media that would be broadcast overseas (to start with, anyway):

“While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair and false way.

“Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!”

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23601574/

Sounds like what the dictators do. He's an idiot.

RodeoSchro said:

President Trump - acting increasingly like a despot - has now floated the idea of state-run media that would be broadcast overseas (to start with, anyway):

“While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair and false way.

“Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!”

[url]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/11/26/trump-floats-starting-state-run-worldwide-nerk-to-rival-cnn/23601574/[/url

RodeoSchro said:

President Trump - acting increasingly like a despot - has now floated the idea of state-run media that would be broadcast overseas (to start with, anyway):

“While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair and false way.

“Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!”

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23601574/

LOL propaganda drivel and fake news that already dumbed down Americans? won't work on a global scale you fat orange dumbfuck

RodeoSchro said:

President Trump - acting increasingly like a despot - has now floated the idea of state-run media that would be broadcast overseas (to start with, anyway):

“While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair and false way.

“Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!”

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23601574/

Wow, that rotten pile of shit gets more rotten by the minute. He is really, really insane.

13cjk13 said:

RodeoSchro said:

President Trump - acting increasingly like a despot - has now floated the idea of state-run media that would be broadcast overseas (to start with, anyway):

“While CNN doesn’t do great in the United States based on ratings, outside of the U.S. they have very little competition. Throughout the world, CNN has a powerful voice portraying the United States in an unfair and false way.

“Something has to be done, including the possibility of the United States starting our own Worldwide Network to show the World the way we really are, GREAT!”

https://www.aol.com/artic.../23601574/

Wow, that rotten pile of shit gets more rotten by the minute. He is really, really insane.

I'll say it again, and not for the last time in the foreseeable future, what an asshole