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balmliove

Denise Matthews/Vanity Instagram Last post

Not sure if this has been discussed...but Denise's last post on IG was a picture of Prince. Has anyone seen that last picture? Can anyon interpret what it means?
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/16 11:23pm

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balmliove said:

Not sure if this has been discussed...but Denise's last post on IG was a picture of Prince. Has anyone seen that last picture? Can anyon interpret what it means?

I am surprised that its still up https://www.instagram.com...ity/?hl=en she has so many beautiful things and her cats were cute. It looks like jellyfish surrounding Prince with the word "Dangerously" maybe meaning that Prince was heading into heady waters? I do remember her saying I think in Ebony or was it Essence that she was worried for his spirit? Maybe other ppl here have a different view.

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Reply #2 posted 07/12/16 11:40pm

LuxLove

I'd love to know what she meant by it- it's so random. I know there was talk about it on here somewhere in a thread because people were discussing the jellyfish symbolism & I remember thinking there are jellyfish on the MPLSound album & wondering if it was related.

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Reply #3 posted 07/13/16 1:02am

SunnyGirl8

Yeah, this did come up on the big Vanity thread. It's one of her original artworks, Prince is in it and it's her last post.

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It's interesting she's emersed him in water with jellyfish around him. Jellyfish were on the Lotusfl3wr website. As mentioned, they're on the cover of MPLSound album. He has jellyfish on stage with him at Montreux 2009.

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In the song Here on the MPLSound album, he talks about being emersed/under water:

"If U can learn to open your eyes under water, then U and me won't drown without each other
I promise I'll see U on the other side, if U just believe in me and trust this ride
The quickest way there is U and me sincere"

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As for "dangerously" it can mean "to act or live dangerously" ie. to take risks. What she intended by this I don't know. Obviously, how you choose to interpret her art is up to you.

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Reply #4 posted 07/13/16 1:02pm

babynoz

I guess she's implying that he would feel the sting of living dangerously?



eta, I have never seen this since I don't follow any of these people. It is interesting that there are no other pics of him.

[Edited 7/13/16 13:09pm]

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Reply #5 posted 07/13/16 3:02pm

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when was the posteed? interesting indeed.

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Reply #6 posted 07/13/16 3:58pm

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She was still in contact with people Prince was close to, she said once before she died in a phone interview with a christian station (wouldn't talk about Prince tho, too personal to say what the relationship was now) said she still spoke to people from her old life. Sheila E i know she spoke with...even Mayte posted her and Denise would talk about animals and her rescue efforts a few times, Mani as well said they never met but she had ''interactions'' with her and there were others i am sure. I feel maybe she was told things, maybe Denise had knowledge of his pain, addiction, etc. she might have known of his struggles.

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If anyone new about drug addiction and physical pain it was Denise Matthews bawl sad

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Reply #7 posted 07/13/16 4:22pm

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GeniusLuv said:

She was still in contact with people Prince was close to, she said once before she died in a phone interview with a christian station (wouldn't talk about Prince tho, too personal to say what the relationship was now) said she still spoke to people from her old life. Sheila E i know she spoke with...even Mayte posted her and Denise would talk about animals and her rescue efforts a few times, Mani as well said they never met but she had ''interactions'' with her and there were others i am sure. I feel maybe she was told things, maybe Denise had knowledge of his pain, addiction, etc. she might have known of his struggles.

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If anyone new about drug addiction and physical pain it was Denise Matthews bawl sad

Yuuuuuuuuuuup sad I need to listen to Grace http://welcometothedawn.t...-b-side-of biggrin

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Reply #8 posted 07/13/16 4:48pm

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Goddess4Real said:

GeniusLuv said:

She was still in contact with people Prince was close to, she said once before she died in a phone interview with a christian station (wouldn't talk about Prince tho, too personal to say what the relationship was now) said she still spoke to people from her old life. Sheila E i know she spoke with...even Mayte posted her and Denise would talk about animals and her rescue efforts a few times, Mani as well said they never met but she had ''interactions'' with her and there were others i am sure. I feel maybe she was told things, maybe Denise had knowledge of his pain, addiction, etc. she might have known of his struggles.

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If anyone new about drug addiction and physical pain it was Denise Matthews bawl sad

Yuuuuuuuuuuup sad I need to listen to Grace http://welcometothedawn.t...-b-side-of biggrin

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That is a good photo of Vanity and Morris cool

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Reply #9 posted 07/13/16 4:51pm

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GeniusLuv said:

Goddess4Real said:

Yuuuuuuuuuuup sad I need to listen to Grace http://welcometothedawn.t...-b-side-of biggrin

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That is a good photo of Vanity and Morris cool

Yuuuup while listening to "Grace" lol

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Reply #10 posted 07/13/16 4:54pm

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Goddess4Real said:

GeniusLuv said:

That is a good photo of Vanity and Morris cool

Yuuuup while listening to "Grace" lol

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Reply #11 posted 07/13/16 8:59pm

balmliove

Thank you all for the insight....I thought itv was very odd as well since she seemed to post it the early part of last year. I also thought it was some kind of warning. It just so unusual considering the circumstances.

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Reply #12 posted 07/13/16 9:08pm

balmliove

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when was the posteed? interesting indeed.


Sometime in August 2014....
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Reply #13 posted 07/13/16 10:20pm

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babynoz said:

I guess she's implying that he would feel the sting of living dangerously?



eta, I have never seen this since I don't follow any of these people. It is interesting that there are no other pics of him.

[Edited 7/13/16 13:09pm]

I think that your interpretation is a pretty good one. It seems kind of like a variation on the whole principle of karma, that what you do can come back to bite (sting) you.

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Reply #14 posted 07/14/16 12:13am

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An extra bit of info that may be relevant/not:

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The Collector's hardcopy limited edition of Denise's book "Blame it on Vanity" is peppered with her original artwork. In her book, there's an earlier version of the Prince playing his guitar with the jellyfish artwork. The water is a pale blue grey and the picture is reversed (he's on the other side). The words "Lassoed" run across the bottom of the picture and form a frame around it. It marks the start of the chapter "Lassoed" that explains how Prince and Vanity met at the 1980 AMA's and the beginning of their love affair.

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The artwork on Instagram looks like it's an updated version of the artwork she used in her book. The picture's been flipped, the background is a deep blue and the layout/frame is different (header and footer above and below picture). The word 'Lassoed' has been substituted with 'Dangerously' in a different layout.

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Reply #15 posted 07/14/16 7:02am

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It could also mean these things:

- that she was lassoed into all of this because of her addictive relationship with Prince (blaming him); or

- that true to his lyrics, they had both floated under water and we're making it through life to be together until the end of time.

Two completely different thoughts.

The fact that she never posted anything about him, and then this last post...is really something to think about.

Sometimes I wonder if on his last album, the song "Revelation" is about her.

No matter who people become throughout life, our spirits are what matters - and I wonder sometimes if Prince saw that later and felt they were soul mates.

He did call Mayte his soul mate later but that might've been wishful thinking or what he wanted at the time.

Oh I don't know. The man lived too much of a big life for me to try to assume things...id have to know him myself to know.
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Reply #16 posted 07/14/16 7:13am

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anangellooksdown said:

It could also mean these things: - that she was lassoed into all of this because of her addictive relationship with Prince (blaming him); or - that true to his lyrics, they had both floated under water and we're making it through life to be together until the end of time. Two completely different thoughts. The fact that she never posted anything about him, and then this last post...is really something to think about. Sometimes I wonder if on his last album, the song "Revelation" is about her. No matter who people become throughout life, our spirits are what matters - and I wonder sometimes if Prince saw that later and felt they were soul mates. He did call Mayte his soul mate later but that might've been wishful thinking or what he wanted at the time. Oh I don't know. The man lived too much of a big life for me to try to assume things...id have to know him myself to know.

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.

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Reply #17 posted 07/14/16 10:15am

SunnyGirl8

endiadj said:

anangellooksdown said:

It could also mean these things: - that she was lassoed into all of this because of her addictive relationship with Prince (blaming him); or - that true to his lyrics, they had both floated under water and we're making it through life to be together until the end of time. Two completely different thoughts. The fact that she never posted anything about him, and then this last post...is really something to think about. Sometimes I wonder if on his last album, the song "Revelation" is about her. No matter who people become throughout life, our spirits are what matters - and I wonder sometimes if Prince saw that later and felt they were soul mates. He did call Mayte his soul mate later but that might've been wishful thinking or what he wanted at the time. Oh I don't know. The man lived too much of a big life for me to try to assume things...id have to know him myself to know.

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.

The lassoed artwork comes from a chapter in her book. It doesn't seem to be about blame, more that she's talking about the magnetism between them and how intensely and immediately they connected. For example, they had just met at the 1980 AMA's when he was approached by the press that evening:

"Cameras were hovering about, honing in, interrogating for impressive subject material. I, somewhat confused - much like the Great Fall of Babylon - from the semi-automatic bombastic explosion of questions on my right, but I recall only one that mattered 'Who is the lovely lady Prince?' Was he really speaking of me? Grabbing tight my hand and yanking me to his side he replied defiantly, 'This is my wife.'"

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It's very interesting that the last and only image of Prince on her Instagram is so similar to the artwork she used in her book to descibe how they met and the intensity of the connection they shared. Endiadj - you said it perfectly - The image on Instagram 'obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.'

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Reply #18 posted 07/14/16 11:04am

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SunnyGirl8 said:

endiadj said:

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.

The lassoed artwork comes from a chapter in her book. It doesn't seem to be about blame, more that she's talking about the magnetism between them and how intensely and immediately they connected. For example, they had just met at the 1980 AMA's when he was approached by the press that evening:

"Cameras were hovering about, honing in, interrogating for impressive subject material. I, somewhat confused - much like the Great Fall of Babylon - from the semi-automatic bombastic explosion of questions on my right, but I recall only one that mattered 'Who is the lovely lady Prince?' Was he really speaking of me? Grabbing tight my hand and yanking me to his side he replied defiantly, 'This is my wife.'"

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It's very interesting that the last and only image of Prince on her Instagram is so similar to the artwork she used in her book to descibe how they met and the intensity of the connection they shared. Endiadj - you said it perfectly - The image on Instagram 'obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.'

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shivers doown my spine thinking about what could've been sad

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Reply #19 posted 07/14/16 11:32am

SunnyGirl8

endiadj said:

SunnyGirl8 said:

The lassoed artwork comes from a chapter in her book. It doesn't seem to be about blame, more that she's talking about the magnetism between them and how intensely and immediately they connected. For example, they had just met at the 1980 AMA's when he was approached by the press that evening:

"Cameras were hovering about, honing in, interrogating for impressive subject material. I, somewhat confused - much like the Great Fall of Babylon - from the semi-automatic bombastic explosion of questions on my right, but I recall only one that mattered 'Who is the lovely lady Prince?' Was he really speaking of me? Grabbing tight my hand and yanking me to his side he replied defiantly, 'This is my wife.'"

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It's very interesting that the last and only image of Prince on her Instagram is so similar to the artwork she used in her book to descibe how they met and the intensity of the connection they shared. Endiadj - you said it perfectly - The image on Instagram 'obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.'

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shivers doown my spine thinking about what could've been sad

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Although, do we even know what relationship they really had? There's so many bizarre things like Vanity wearing a wedding band in the early 80's while she's in V6 on TV. It just raises questions of whether they were more serious than publicly acknowledged. The more you look at their behaviour, the more obvious it is that there seems to be a backstory that hasn't been made public. And of course, there's nothing wrong with that, just because you're famous doesn't mean you can't have a private life. But you're right, it's a shame they didn't have easy path.

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Reply #20 posted 07/14/16 4:12pm

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206Michelle said:

babynoz said:

I guess she's implying that he would feel the sting of living dangerously?



eta, I have never seen this since I don't follow any of these people. It is interesting that there are no other pics of him.

[Edited 7/13/16 13:09pm]

I think that your interpretation is a pretty good one. It seems kind of like a variation on the whole principle of karma, that what you do can come back to bite (sting) you.



I guess it could be about karma but if it was posted in 2014 it could have been her way of trying to warn him about getting in bed with Warner's again or someone else around him that she felt was toxic.

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Reply #21 posted 07/15/16 3:58am

luvgirl

Wow! This really blows my mind. The coincidences are so bazaar between those two. I don't know what to think...
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Reply #22 posted 07/15/16 5:23am

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A very striking image. Something worried her.
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Reply #23 posted 07/15/16 6:00am

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endiadj said:



anangellooksdown said:


It could also mean these things: - that she was lassoed into all of this because of her addictive relationship with Prince (blaming him); or - that true to his lyrics, they had both floated under water and we're making it through life to be together until the end of time. Two completely different thoughts. The fact that she never posted anything about him, and then this last post...is really something to think about. Sometimes I wonder if on his last album, the song "Revelation" is about her. No matter who people become throughout life, our spirits are what matters - and I wonder sometimes if Prince saw that later and felt they were soul mates. He did call Mayte his soul mate later but that might've been wishful thinking or what he wanted at the time. Oh I don't know. The man lived too much of a big life for me to try to assume things...id have to know him myself to know.

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.



I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it
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Reply #24 posted 07/15/16 6:30am

endiadj

captiveunicorn said:

endiadj said:

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.

I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it confused

Don't ruin it for me. lol IT just nice to see the last two are of her and Prince, side by side. Also she was selling these items to help pay for her book, bills.

I've read posts of why didn't Prince help. Same of Eddie and other big names she knew or dated. Maybe they tried and she didn't want their help. Didn't they help her out before? Maybe she didn't want to keep depending on them. idk

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Reply #25 posted 07/15/16 7:08am

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endiadj said:

captiveunicorn said:

endiadj said: I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it confused

Don't ruin it for me. lol IT just nice to see the last two are of her and Prince, side by side. Also she was selling these items to help pay for her book, bills.

I've read posts of why didn't Prince help. Same of Eddie and other big names she knew or dated. Maybe they tried and she didn't want their help. Didn't they help her out before? Maybe she didn't want to keep depending on them. idk

Also, she said in an interview that she was offered milllllllllllions to do a tell-all book on her time with Prince but she said she would never do it. And you know she needed money badly...so, it would have been very easy and really beneficial to reveal all the skeletons in his closet.....and you know she knew stuff nod LOL and could do a great tell all book and take care of all her bills at the same time, but she said she would never do that to him. That says a lot about her and how she felt about him.

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Reply #26 posted 07/15/16 4:32pm

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captiveunicorn said:

endiadj said:



anangellooksdown said:


It could also mean these things: - that she was lassoed into all of this because of her addictive relationship with Prince (blaming him); or - that true to his lyrics, they had both floated under water and we're making it through life to be together until the end of time. Two completely different thoughts. The fact that she never posted anything about him, and then this last post...is really something to think about. Sometimes I wonder if on his last album, the song "Revelation" is about her. No matter who people become throughout life, our spirits are what matters - and I wonder sometimes if Prince saw that later and felt they were soul mates. He did call Mayte his soul mate later but that might've been wishful thinking or what he wanted at the time. Oh I don't know. The man lived too much of a big life for me to try to assume things...id have to know him myself to know.

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.



I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it
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Boo! sad ( joking, joking lol
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Reply #27 posted 07/15/16 5:11pm

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luvgirl said:

captiveunicorn said:
I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it confused
Boo! sad ( joking, joking lol [Edited 7/15/16 16:34pm]

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Reply #28 posted 07/15/16 11:53pm

SunnyGirl8

captiveunicorn said:

endiadj said:

And also important, she posted this a year and a half ago and never posted anything after it... It obviously meant something important to her. She wanted this to be the last image, a lasting image.

I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it confused

It doesn't matter that she was selling the art. It's still the last and only picture of him on her Instagram account. It's still her original artwork and it's of him. The artwork stems from an earlier artwork that's used to describe their relationship and how they met in her book. And who are we to pass judgement on what she meant by any of this? Or for that matter trivialise it?

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Reply #29 posted 07/16/16 6:49am

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SunnyGirl8 said:

captiveunicorn said:

endiadj said: I don't think too much should be read into it being the "last image she posted". It was posted in August 2014 - along with 5 other images. Also if you read the captions on all the images it seems like she just set up the Instagram to sell her belongings to finance republishing her book. If you read the caption on the Prince image she was trying to sell it. I think that kind of evaporates any romantic notions that there was some deep/hidden significance to her posting it confused

It doesn't matter that she was selling the art. It's still the last and only picture of him on her Instagram account. It's still her original artwork and it's of him. The artwork stems from an earlier artwork that's used to describe their relationship and how they met in her book. And who are we to pass judgement on what she meant by any of this? Or for that matter trivialise it?

nod Agree!! You go SunnyGirl8!!!

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