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Reply #60 posted 02/15/18 12:19pm

PennyPurple

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Well let's just all put in a trademark for Procter and Gamble, if mulitple people are allowed to use trademarks.

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Reply #61 posted 02/15/18 12:26pm

morningsong

Genesia said:

morningsong said:



According to meltedman's analogy, the company that originally had the trademark can still use it even though someone else registers to use it.





Is meltedman a patent lawyer or trademark expert?

If Mani gets her hooks in, starts using the mark, and uses it consistently and often, she will own it and can sue Mayte if she tries to use it. It's all about the use, at this point. Bottom line: you have to use a trademark or someone can snatch it out from under the original owner - who won't have a leg to stand on, legally.

Oh – and that whole thing about whether it's "foundation" or "charity" doesn't amount to a tinker's damn. It is "Love 4 One Another" that is the unique, markable phrase.

[Edited 2/15/18 12:08pm]



I have no idea what he is, but it is what he said. Granted, it didn't sound right to me.

But I would hope that the lawyers at Comerica have some idea what is what, and if they have backed off and the inheritors of the Estate aren't pissed about it, then I going to work with the idea there is an unknown element happening and I'll just wait and see until something a bit more concrete surfaces.

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Reply #62 posted 02/15/18 12:37pm

laurarichardso
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Genesia said:

morningsong said:



According to meltedman's analogy, the company that originally had the trademark can still use it even though someone else registers to use it.





Is meltedman a patent lawyer or trademark expert?

If Mani gets her hooks in, starts using the mark, and uses it consistently and often, she will own it and can sue Mayte if she tries to use it. It's all about the use, at this point. Bottom line: you have to use a trademark or someone can snatch it out from under the original owner - who won't have a leg to stand on, legally.

Oh – and that whole thing about whether it's "foundation" or "charity" doesn't amount to a tinker's damn. It is "Love 4 One Another" that is the unique, markable phrase.

[Edited 2/15/18 12:08pm]

Meltedman is not an attorney. He is Mayte friend/advisor. I hope she gets a real lawyer so she does not get sued. M2 has it and as we can see she is using it as a charity with Omarr's blessing.

I would love to know why he is hooking up with M2?

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Reply #63 posted 02/15/18 1:10pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said:

Here's the thing with trademarks: There are two parts to having one. First, you have to file for use of the name. But you also have to actually use the name - and be able to exhibit that you've done so. You can't just file for a trademark and keep it in perpetuity. If you don't use the name, it becomes fair game for anyone else.

I work for a company that has let the trademarks on some of our product names lapse through non-use - sometimes to our chagrin. They didn't match the direction of the company at the time or were thought to be old fashioned. Then new leadership came in, looked at some of our old stuff, and said, "Hey, that's cool! We should revive that!" only to discover that our mark had lapsed through non-use and someone else snagged it.

As shady as it seems, it happens allllll the time.

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Yes, but this is usaully not the first thing that comes into your mind when someone dies.

I think the sibs are okay with it and Comerica backed off. I just hope one day a school is built with Prince's name on it right here in the USA.

It seems weird that she would snag it for her own charity works when Prince had so many charites that he supported that I am sure could use the funds. It just seems self-centered to me and she is using his image like they were still together.

She was not his widow and that is how she is acting.



It's one of things Tyka mentioned a while back, which kind of perked my ears up with some big question marks, but since she's definitely not going to answer my questions about it, I'm assuming things are slowly being put in place.

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Reply #64 posted 02/15/18 1:13pm

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This is all deceitful, calculating, conniving and manipulative.

M2 has weaseled her way in on the sly.

Remember she lied and said she talked to Prince about building a school in his name and then we learned she NEVER talked to Prince? He didnt take her call.

Then after taking donations from Ps fans she never named the school after him.

And now she has Ps photo on her charity web site looking for money?

lol







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Reply #65 posted 02/15/18 1:23pm

laurarichardso
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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, but this is usaully not the first thing that comes into your mind when someone dies.

I think the sibs are okay with it and Comerica backed off. I just hope one day a school is built with Prince's name on it right here in the USA.

It seems weird that she would snag it for her own charity works when Prince had so many charites that he supported that I am sure could use the funds. It just seems self-centered to me and she is using his image like they were still together.

She was not his widow and that is how she is acting.



It's one of things Tyka mentioned a while back, which kind of perked my ears up with some big question marks, but since she's definitely not going to answer my questions about it, I'm assuming things are slowly being put in place.

Maybe Tyka and Omarr think they can work with M2 to get the school built but all of her work appears to be overseas which was not the kind of charity things we saw Prince support.

Just seems weird that the two of them could not have got this up and running without her. It just looks bad.

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Reply #66 posted 02/15/18 1:24pm

laurarichardso
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is all deceitful, calculating, conniving and manipulative.

M2 has weaseled her way in on the sly.

Remember she lied and said she talked to Prince about building a school in his name and then we learned she NEVER talked to Prince? He didnt take her call.

Then after taking donations from Ps fans she never named the school after him.

And now she has Ps photo on her charity web site looking for money?

lol







Yes, she only 4500.00 in donations. Not a good track record. It looks like if she did not have money from the divorce this thing would have flopped a long time ago.

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Reply #67 posted 02/15/18 1:27pm

laurarichardso
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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is all deceitful, calculating, conniving and manipulative.

M2 has weaseled her way in on the sly.

Remember she lied and said she talked to Prince about building a school in his name and then we learned she NEVER talked to Prince? He didnt take her call.

Then after taking donations from Ps fans she never named the school after him.

And now she has Ps photo on her charity web site looking for money?

lol







Yes, she only 4500.00 in donations. Not a good track record. It looks like if she did not have money from the divorce this thing would have flopped a long time ago. There are stories that she did not know what she was doing when she was running L4OA and too much shady shit happend with that charity when it was active before. We still do not know why Prince took his charity off line after the divorce and why there are rumors that some of those people working for M2 now got canned when they were working for Prince.

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Reply #68 posted 02/15/18 2:27pm

Genesia

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morningsong said:

Genesia said:


Is meltedman a patent lawyer or trademark expert?

If Mani gets her hooks in, starts using the mark, and uses it consistently and often, she will own it and can sue Mayte if she tries to use it. It's all about the use, at this point. Bottom line: you have to use a trademark or someone can snatch it out from under the original owner - who won't have a leg to stand on, legally.

Oh – and that whole thing about whether it's "foundation" or "charity" doesn't amount to a tinker's damn. It is "Love 4 One Another" that is the unique, markable phrase.

[Edited 2/15/18 12:08pm]



I have no idea what he is, but it is what he said. Granted, it didn't sound right to me.

But I would hope that the lawyers at Comerica have some idea what is what, and if they have backed off and the inheritors of the Estate aren't pissed about it, then I going to work with the idea there is an unknown element happening and I'll just wait and see until something a bit more concrete surfaces.


Comerica may have been told that the original Love 4 One Another charity lost rights to the mark through non-use and decided not to put any resources toward re-establishing the estate's claim, since they had no plans to use the mark for the foreseeable future.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #69 posted 02/15/18 3:21pm

morningsong

Genesia said:

morningsong said:



I have no idea what he is, but it is what he said. Granted, it didn't sound right to me.

But I would hope that the lawyers at Comerica have some idea what is what, and if they have backed off and the inheritors of the Estate aren't pissed about it, then I going to work with the idea there is an unknown element happening and I'll just wait and see until something a bit more concrete surfaces.


Comerica may have been told that the original Love 4 One Another charity lost rights to the mark through non-use and decided not to put any resources toward re-establishing the estate's claim, since they had no plans to use the mark for the foreseeable future.




Maybe.

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Reply #70 posted 02/15/18 3:27pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:



It's one of things Tyka mentioned a while back, which kind of perked my ears up with some big question marks, but since she's definitely not going to answer my questions about it, I'm assuming things are slowly being put in place.

Maybe Tyka and Omarr think they can work with M2 to get the school built but all of her work appears to be overseas which was not the kind of charity things we saw Prince support.

Just seems weird that the two of them could not have got this up and running without her. It just looks bad.




I don't know if that is what she meant or not. But if she is willing to work with Mani, then I'm going to side with her versus reacting to comments from people who don't like his exes. Either way it's still a wait and see because she may not have even meant that she'd be working with Mani or Omarr. I'd really like to see Tyka have a school opened here in States in his name, that would burst my heart.

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Reply #71 posted 02/15/18 3:29pm

LOVESYMBOLNUMB
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laurarichardson said:



Genesia said:




morningsong said:





According to meltedman's analogy, the company that originally had the trademark can still use it even though someone else registers to use it.







Is meltedman a patent lawyer or trademark expert?

If Mani gets her hooks in, starts using the mark, and uses it consistently and often, she will own it and can sue Mayte if she tries to use it. It's all about the use, at this point. Bottom line: you have to use a trademark or someone can snatch it out from under the original owner - who won't have a leg to stand on, legally.

Oh – and that whole thing about whether it's "foundation" or "charity" doesn't amount to a tinker's damn. It is "Love 4 One Another" that is the unique, markable phrase.


[Edited 2/15/18 12:08pm]



Meltedman is not an attorney. He is Mayte friend/advisor. I hope she gets a real lawyer so she does not get sued. M2 has it and as we can see she is using it as a charity with Omarr's blessing.



I would love to know why he is hooking up with M2?





I would bet that Omar and Manuela never met while Prince was alive...Omar is very thirsty...he seems to be sticking his name on absolutely anything prince related...please Omar get a drink, sit back and wait for your money...whiff after whiff after whiff with this guy...
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Reply #72 posted 02/15/18 4:18pm

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laurarichardson said:

Meltedman is not an attorney. He is Mayte friend/advisor. I hope she gets a real lawyer so she does not get sued. M2 has it and as we can see she is using it as a charity with Omarr's blessing.

I would love to know why he is hooking up with M2?

She's probably trying to weasel her way in with Omarr now because he will be inheriting lot's of money. Is Eric on the outs? lol

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Reply #73 posted 02/15/18 5:01pm

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Meltedman is not an attorney. He is Mayte friend/advisor. I hope she gets a real lawyer so she does not get sued. M2 has it and as we can see she is using it as a charity with Omarr's blessing.

I would love to know why he is hooking up with M2?

She's probably trying to weasel her way in with Omarr now because he will be inheriting lot's of money. Is Eric on the outs? lol

OOOOH Penny, great intuition! I'm sure M2 would dump him in a heartbeat to be able hook up with any one of the heirs. LOL

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Reply #74 posted 02/15/18 5:29pm

PennyPurple

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

She's probably trying to weasel her way in with Omarr now because he will be inheriting lot's of money. Is Eric on the outs? lol

OOOOH Penny, great intuition! I'm sure M2 would dump him in a heartbeat to be able hook up with any one of the heirs. LOL

lol She broken up marriages before. lol

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Reply #75 posted 02/15/18 6:29pm

purplemist7777

morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:




morningsong said:





It's one of things Tyka mentioned a while back, which kind of perked my ears up with some big question marks, but since she's definitely not going to answer my questions about it, I'm assuming things are slowly being put in place.



Maybe Tyka and Omarr think they can work with M2 to get the school built but all of her work appears to be overseas which was not the kind of charity things we saw Prince support.



Just seems weird that the two of them could not have got this up and running without her. It just looks bad.






I don't know if that is what she meant or not. But if she is willing to work with Mani, then I'm going to side with her versus reacting to comments from people who don't like his exes. Either way it's still a wait and see because she may not have even meant that she'd be working with Mani or Omarr. I'd really like to see Tyka have a school opened here in States in his name, that would burst my heart.



The schools built in Africa are buildings with one room and doesn’t even look like they have electricity or water. A nonprofit called Buildon does the actual building. That’s a far cry from trying to build a school in the US...
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Reply #76 posted 02/16/18 4:56am

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PennyPurple said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

OOOOH Penny, great intuition! I'm sure M2 would dump him in a heartbeat to be able hook up with any one of the heirs. LOL

lol She broken up marriages before. lol

Nothing would surprise me. I know Dr. Funkenberry said he had to deliver messages to Prince from M2 because he would not talk to her. How do you stick a pic up on a website of man that did not want to know you after the divorce? He seems to either not know the stituation or does not care.

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Reply #77 posted 02/16/18 9:58am

Zannaloaf

PennyPurple said:

Well let's just all put in a trademark for Procter and Gamble, if mulitple people are allowed to use trademarks.

Only if they have not protected it adequately. Most companes do.

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Reply #78 posted 02/16/18 2:38pm

morningsong

purplemist7777 said:

morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:




morningsong said:





It's one of things Tyka mentioned a while back, which kind of perked my ears up with some big question marks, but since she's definitely not going to answer my questions about it, I'm assuming things are slowly being put in place.



Maybe Tyka and Omarr think they can work with M2 to get the school built but all of her work appears to be overseas which was not the kind of charity things we saw Prince support.



Just seems weird that the two of them could not have got this up and running without her. It just looks bad.






I don't know if that is what she meant or not. But if she is willing to work with Mani, then I'm going to side with her versus reacting to comments from people who don't like his exes. Either way it's still a wait and see because she may not have even meant that she'd be working with Mani or Omarr. I'd really like to see Tyka have a school opened here in States in his name, that would burst my heart.



The schools built in Africa are buildings with one room and doesn’t even look like they have electricity or water. A nonprofit called Buildon does the actual building. That’s a far cry from trying to build a school in the US...



I'm well aware of that, hence the curiousity.
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