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Thread started 02/12/17 3:22pm

IamBryan

Help me understand about Prince living at Paisley Park?

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

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Reply #1 posted 02/12/17 3:28pm

ksl1974

My guess is that he called the shots. If he wanted to be alone, no one was going to argue with him. No one wanted to make him mad. Cause I assume if you did....you were out...for good. As far as being there alone, doesn't seem like anyone messed with him much. He was just a "hometown guy" to that town...probably didn't have to worry about break-in's, intruders, etc.

But I agree....if they had already called for help from California, they already knew something was terribly wrong. So why no one stayed or even made up and excuse to stay.......I'll never know. Cause the fact they'd already called for someone to intervene, just shows, "they" knew how bad things were.

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Reply #2 posted 02/12/17 3:29pm

kepurplehunter

IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart

His Studiosssss are there who in the hell got time to leave the house and go back n forth to recorded n edit n engineering songs so Why Not !!!!!
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Reply #3 posted 02/12/17 3:31pm

ksl1974

kepurplehunter said:

IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

His Studiosssss are there who in the hell got time to leave the house and go back n forth to recorded n edit n engineering songs so Why Not !!!!!!

ok so...none of that made sense to me? anyone able to translate for me what kepurplehunter said?

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Reply #4 posted 02/12/17 3:31pm

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Although it is more populated now, Chanhassen is basically in the middle of nowhere. When Paisley Park was , built it was surrounded by farm fields. People really left Prince alone in Chsnhassen/MPLS. For the most part, he could just walk, drive, bike around.
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So, yeah he was allowed as private and normal an existence as an all time global superstar could expect. He had homes all over, but MPLS was pretty chill most of the time.
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Reply #5 posted 02/12/17 3:41pm

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IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

It's not the first time I read this kind of statement.

They make Prince sound like a sort of assisted retard and I find it offensive.

For one thing Prince's health condition wasn't life thyreatening. He was in pain but the pain didn't or couldn't kill him. ODing on meds did. P was a very proud man, so obviously he wasn't gonna tell his staff or friends "I'm afraid I'm gonna OD again after the plane incident, stay with me and babysit me".

Besides that...

How can anyone leave me alone at my crib most of the time, regardless of what my health condition could be?

Simple answer: I live alone. So did Prince.

Not all of us like or wish being surrounded by other people all the time. Being on your own is a privilege for some people, it certainly is for me.

And I sure hope people will leave me the hell alone when I'm sick and dying, of all times.

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Reply #6 posted 02/12/17 3:49pm

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As someone who lives just two miles west of Paisley Park, Chanhassen is a middle to upper middle class city not very crime ridden at all. Median household income is $84,385, 3rd highest in the state. Residents were respectful and let Prince have his privacy. 🙂
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #7 posted 02/12/17 4:28pm

laytonian

IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart


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He had video and sounds cameras all over the place that would detect and send alerts.
You missed the recent story here about a cat tripping the security cameras in the parking garage?

We know Judith was there half the time, too.
It was his home, his studio and a stronghold of concrete and metal.
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Reply #8 posted 02/12/17 4:36pm

FlyOnTheWall

laytonian said:

IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.

On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!

Just breaks my heart

. He had video and sounds cameras all over the place that would detect and send alerts. You missed the recent story here about a cat tripping the security cameras in the parking garage? We know Judith was there half the time, too. It was his home, his studio and a stronghold of concrete and metal. .

That's the first that I've heard that Judith was there "half the time." Do you mean when they were in the studio working? Other than that, there is no indication that Judith was at Paisley Park during non-working hours. Is there? I'd be very interested to hear if you know otherwise. I ask because, based on the promotional video for her album, it looks like she would drive to PP and come to work mornings.

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Reply #9 posted 02/12/17 4:47pm

dance4me3121

ksl1974 said:



kepurplehunter said:


IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart



His Studiosssss are there who in the hell got time to leave the house and go back n forth to recorded n edit n engineering songs so Why Not !!!!!

ok so...none of that made sense to me? anyone able to translate for me what kepurplehunter said?



That's just how kep talks.idk what she said either
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Reply #10 posted 02/12/17 5:09pm

RJOrion

dance4me3121 said:

ksl1974 said:



kepurplehunter said:


IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart



His Studiosssss are there who in the hell got time to leave the house and go back n forth to recorded n edit n engineering songs so Why Not !!!!!

ok so...none of that made sense to me? anyone able to translate for me what kepurplehunter said?



That's just how kep talks.idk what she said either


from what i read, Prince had several Studiosssss in hell...who knew?
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Reply #11 posted 02/12/17 5:21pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:



laytonian said:


IamBryan said:

For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart



. He had video and sounds cameras all over the place that would detect and send alerts. You missed the recent story here about a cat tripping the security cameras in the parking garage? We know Judith was there half the time, too. It was his home, his studio and a stronghold of concrete and metal. .

That's the first that I've heard that Judith was there "half the time." Do you mean when they were in the studio working? Other than that, there is no indication that Judith was at Paisley Park during non-working hours. Is there? I'd be very interested to hear if you know otherwise. I ask because, based on the promotional video for her album, it looks like she would drive to PP and come to work mornings.


Judith say she had been coming to PP for two weeks a month for two years.
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Reply #12 posted 02/12/17 5:29pm

FlyOnTheWall

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That's the first that I've heard that Judith was there "half the time." Do you mean when they were in the studio working? Other than that, there is no indication that Judith was at Paisley Park during non-working hours. Is there? I'd be very interested to hear if you know otherwise. I ask because, based on the promotional video for her album, it looks like she would drive to PP and come to work mornings.

Judith say she had been coming to PP for two weeks a month for two years.

That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.

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Reply #13 posted 02/12/17 5:34pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:



laurarichardson said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


That's the first that I've heard that Judith was there "half the time." Do you mean when they were in the studio working? Other than that, there is no indication that Judith was at Paisley Park during non-working hours. Is there? I'd be very interested to hear if you know otherwise. I ask because, based on the promotional video for her album, it looks like she would drive to PP and come to work mornings.



Judith say she had been coming to PP for two weeks a month for two years.

That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.


I did not say she was sleeping at PP but she was not working on her CD for two years.
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Reply #14 posted 02/12/17 5:40pm

GimmeThat

databank said:



IamBryan said:


For some reason, I just can't get my head around the fact that Prince lived at PP all alone? I ask this because it was a buliding surrounded by a chain link fence, which doesn't seem that hard to get through.



On 4/21/16, he dies alone at PP, you mean to tell me, that there was NO security on site, even if he didn't die, I find that very strange...I might be reaching, but given what we know about his medical state how the hell did anyone leave him alone there?!?!



Just breaks my heart



It's not the first time I read this kind of statement.


They make Prince sound like a sort of assisted retard and I find it offensive.


For one thing Prince's health condition wasn't life thyreatening. He was in pain but the pain didn't or couldn't kill him. ODing on meds did. P was a very proud man, so obviously he wasn't gonna tell his staff or friends "I'm afraid I'm gonna OD again after the plane incident, stay with me and babysit me".


Besides that...


How can anyone leave me alone at my crib most of the time, regardless of what my health condition could be?


Simple answer: I live alone. So did Prince.


Not all of us like or wish being surrounded by other people all the time. Being on your own is a privilege for some people, it certainly is for me.


And I sure hope people will leave me the hell alone when I'm sick and dying, of all times.


I agree with you on the living alone thing! I live alone too and don't find it odd that P lived alone. And before he built Paisley Park, he had a studio in his house. So it's not odd, to me, that he lived in an apartment inside of PP.
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Reply #15 posted 02/12/17 5:55pm

laytonian

FlyOnTheWall said:



laurarichardson said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


That's the first that I've heard that Judith was there "half the time." Do you mean when they were in the studio working? Other than that, there is no indication that Judith was at Paisley Park during non-working hours. Is there? I'd be very interested to hear if you know otherwise. I ask because, based on the promotional video for her album, it looks like she would drive to PP and come to work mornings.



Judith say she had been coming to PP for two weeks a month for two years.

That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.



Why do argumentative? Prove we are wrong.
She traveled with him. She was with him in DC when he went to the White House. She was in Atlanta with him for his last concerts.
She described their relationship as intense and they were together for about two years.

Do you seriously think Kim Basinger, Carmen Electra etc stayed in a hotel?
The only ones who stayed in hotels were likely those he wasn't in a relationship with.
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Reply #16 posted 02/12/17 6:04pm

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laytonian said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.

Why do argumentative? Prove we are wrong. She traveled with him. She was with him in DC when he went to the White House. She was in Atlanta with him for his last concerts. She described their relationship as intense and they were together for about two years. Do you seriously think Kim Basinger, Carmen Electra etc stayed in a hotel? The only ones who stayed in hotels were likely those he wasn't in a relationship with.



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Reply #17 posted 02/12/17 7:21pm

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SpookyNopetopus said:



laytonian said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.



Why do argumentative? Prove we are wrong. She traveled with him. She was with him in DC when he went to the White House. She was in Atlanta with him for his last concerts. She described their relationship as intense and they were together for about two years. Do you seriously think Kim Basinger, Carmen Electra etc stayed in a hotel? The only ones who stayed in hotels were likely those he wasn't in a relationship with.

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We are not 12 years old but we are adults. Judith said in the NYT he was the man she loved. We did not put those words in her mouth. They were adults.
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Reply #18 posted 02/12/17 8:21pm

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laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

We are not 12 years old but we are adults. Judith said in the NYT he was the man she loved. We did not put those words in her mouth. They were adults.

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Reply #19 posted 02/12/17 8:43pm

kingricefan

rogifan said:

As someone who lives just two miles west of Paisley Park, Chanhassen is a middle to upper middle class city not very crime ridden at all. Median household income is $84,385, 3rd highest in the state. Residents were respectful and let Prince have his privacy. 🙂

My best friend and I just bought our tix to Paisley Park for our trip in May. I will be bugging you for info on what/where to go in Minneapolis. smile Obviously we gotta go take a dip in Lake Minnetonka to cleanse our souls. Hit First Avenue. Find the house that they used in Purple Rain. We will be doing two tours at Paisley, one After Dark and one of the long tours during the day. I am so excited to finally get to see PP. Just wish I'd done it while P was still here.

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laurarichardso
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SpookyNopetopus said:



laurarichardson said:


SpookyNopetopus said:


[Flame snip - luv4u]



We are not 12 years old but we are adults. Judith said in the NYT he was the man she loved. We did not put those words in her mouth. They were adults.


[Snip - luv4u]


-/How can you misunderstand "he told me he wanted to take up all of my time" If you want to believe Prince was some Monk sitting on a mountain top feel free. Do not tell me or anyone that we are reading what these people are saying and in some cases viewing their interviews and we are misinterpreting their comments. In addition, these women are free to say what they want and they are not all delusion. Stop discounting what people have to say who knew him.
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Reply #21 posted 02/13/17 3:24am

paulludvig

What did his appartement at PP look like? anyone knows? Just curious.

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Reply #22 posted 02/13/17 3:25am

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laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:



laytonian said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


That doesn't mean that she was sleeping at PP. Many people were there for extended periods, but they usually stayed at local hotels or in one of P's guest properties.



Why do argumentative? Prove we are wrong. She traveled with him. She was with him in DC when he went to the White House. She was in Atlanta with him for his last concerts. She described their relationship as intense and they were together for about two years. Do you seriously think Kim Basinger, Carmen Electra etc stayed in a hotel? The only ones who stayed in hotels were likely those he wasn't in a relationship with.

[Flame snip - luv4u]


We are not 12 years old but we are adults. Judith said in the NYT he was the man she loved. We did not put those words in her mouth. They were adults.

If I recall correctly she said she loved him which doesn't have quite the same meaning. I very much got the impression she loved him as a mentor, friend, co-worker, beautiful person that he was and anyone who got to know him on a personal level would love. Not in the romantic sense at all. But you read into it or between the lines or spin it however you want. Still doesn't make it so.
Back on topic: there have been other threads about this and countless others here who have expressed the same feelings, myself included. What's done is done. Blaming others won't bring him back. His friends and aasociates probably couldn't feel any worse than they do over the whole thing.
Many others here feel the same way you do and have said so, including me. Its too hard to accept sometimes that he's gone. He should still be here. He's still missed very much.
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Reply #23 posted 02/13/17 3:28am

KaresB

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

-/How can you misunderstand "he told me he wanted to take up all of my time" If you want to believe Prince was some Monk sitting on a mountain top feel free. Do not tell me or anyone that we are reading what these people are saying and in some cases viewing their interviews and we are misinterpreting their comments. In addition, these women are free to say what they want and they are not all delusion. Stop discounting what people have to say who knew him.

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

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Reply #24 posted 02/13/17 3:29am

FlyOnTheWall

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

-/How can you misunderstand "he told me he wanted to take up all of my time" If you want to believe Prince was some Monk sitting on a mountain top feel free. Do not tell me or anyone that we are reading what these people are saying and in some cases viewing their interviews and we are misinterpreting their comments. In addition, these women are free to say what they want and they are not all delusion. Stop discounting what people have to say who knew him.

Since Prince is not here to verify Ms. Hill's claims, many people are taking them with a grain of salt.

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Reply #25 posted 02/13/17 4:06am

laurarichardso
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FlyOnTheWall said:

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said: -/How can you misunderstand "he told me he wanted to take up all of my time" If you want to believe Prince was some Monk sitting on a mountain top feel free. Do not tell me or anyone that we are reading what these people are saying and in some cases viewing their interviews and we are misinterpreting their comments. In addition, these women are free to say what they want and they are not all delusion. Stop discounting what people have to say who knew him.

Since Prince is not here to verify Ms. Hill's claims, many people are taking them with a grain of salt.

It does not matter. She was on that plane and since we have not heard much from her since it does not appear she is using whatever her relationship she had with him to get PR for herself which she could still be doing if she wanted to.

In the meantime people who Prince did not communicate with can get on crappy tabloid shows and talk as if they were life long buds and people do not question it at all.

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Reply #26 posted 02/13/17 4:30am

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paulludvig said:

What did his appartement at PP look like? anyone knows? Just curious.



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Reply #27 posted 02/13/17 4:33am

FlyOnTheWall

laurarichardson said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Since Prince is not here to verify Ms. Hill's claims, many people are taking them with a grain of salt.

It does not matter. She was on that plane and since we have not heard much from her since it does not appear she is using whatever her relationship she had with him to get PR for herself which she could still be doing if she wanted to.

In the meantime people who Prince did not communicate with can get on crappy tabloid shows and talk as if they were life long buds and people do not question it at all.

That's true, but once you go "on record" in the New York Times, what more is there to say? Whatever the case, I think she is a lovely woman with an amazing voice. I wish her well.

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KaresB said:



laurarichardson said:


SpookyNopetopus said:



[Flame snip - luv4u].



-/How can you misunderstand "he told me he wanted to take up all of my time" If you want to believe Prince was some Monk sitting on a mountain top feel free. Do not tell me or anyone that we are reading what these people are saying and in some cases viewing their interviews and we are misinterpreting their comments. In addition, these women are free to say what they want and they are not all delusion. Stop discounting what people have to say who knew him.

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.


Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.
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Reply #29 posted 02/13/17 5:54am

FlyOnTheWall

rogifan said:

KaresB said:

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"He told me he wanted to take up all of my time" is definitely not something Prince would've said to woman if he had romantic intentions. And Judith wouldn't have 'outed' their romantic relationship like that if they had one. To me that line sounds exactly like a professional compliment to another artist, nothing more.

Stop fantasising. Prince didn't sleep with all his associates.

Unfortunately there are people who believe that to be the case and think anyone who doesn't is just being naïve. Actually I find the notion that Prince couldn't have a relationship with a women without it being sexual in nature deeply insulting to both Prince and his female bandmates/associates.

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