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Prince's appearance in last days

57 minutes in, this is clips from the last show in much higher quality, there was a large debate when folks saw the old footage of this show how bad he looked, with the clearer version, what are all your thoughts now on his appearnce? Personally I think he looks fantastic.

https://youtu.be/no5SnVUBTKI

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Reply #1 posted 05/28/17 11:04am

purplerabbitho
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Musically, he is spectacular. Truely great. His variations of his songs are genius. Its funny but that version of Sometimes It Snows in April brought it to a different and more profound level. He variates it so much, its nearly a different song.

Physically, he's looked better in the past. He doesnt look old (Prince never really looked old). He looks frail and fragile. He looks like he did in 2009 but with an afro.

leadline said:

57 minutes in, this is clips from the last show in much higher quality, there was a large debate when folks saw the old footage of this show how bad he looked, with the clearer version, what are all your thoughts now on his appearnce? Personally I think he looks fantastic.

https://youtu.be/no5SnVUBTKI

[Edited 5/28/17 11:05am]

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Reply #2 posted 05/28/17 11:20am

TrivialPursuit

He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.

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Reply #3 posted 05/28/17 11:45am

1contessa

Painful to watch, but he looked okay to me. Some in the comment section stated that this was not someone who was a dope head or junkie to them, and I would have to agree with that.

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Reply #4 posted 05/28/17 12:28pm

paulludvig

TrivialPursuit said:

He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.

how so?

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Reply #5 posted 05/28/17 12:32pm

dandan

OH MY FUCKING DAYS HIS VOCALS ON THE FIRST CLIP!!!

Utter perfection, damn.

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Reply #6 posted 05/28/17 12:53pm

paulludvig

purplerabbithole said:

Musically, he is spectacular. Truely great. His variations of his songs are genius. Its funny but that version of Sometimes It Snows in April brought it to a different and more profound level. He variates it so much, its nearly a different song.

Physically, he's looked better in the past. He doesnt look old (Prince never really looked old). He looks frail and fragile. He looks like he did in 2009 but with an afro.

leadline said:

57 minutes in, this is clips from the last show in much higher quality, there was a large debate when folks saw the old footage of this show how bad he looked, with the clearer version, what are all your thoughts now on his appearnce? Personally I think he looks fantastic.

https://youtu.be/no5SnVUBTKI

[Edited 5/28/17 11:05am]

Totally agree. That was the greatness of this tour. The songs were reinterpreted every night. I don't think he played any of the songs exactly same way more than once, and sometimes he changed the songs completely. Listen to the show he played the night he learned about Vanity's death. Every song was reimagined through the lens of sadness and loss.

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Reply #7 posted 05/28/17 2:30pm

leadline

Do you guys think the thinness could be due to the size of his afro? I mean anything that big on your head would make you seem smaller.


[Edited 5/29/17 7:20am]

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Reply #8 posted 05/28/17 2:40pm

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He played and sang beautifully but he was just so thin. He looked physically sick to me and I'm not talking about taking too many painkillers, I mean he just looked sick. It's so sad. He did give his whole heart to that show though.

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Reply #9 posted 05/28/17 3:15pm

206Michelle

leadline said:

57 minutes in, this is clips from the last show in much higher quality, there was a large debate when folks saw the old footage of this show how bad he looked, with the clearer version, what are all your thoughts now on his appearnce? Personally I think he looks fantastic.

https://youtu.be/no5SnVUBTKI

What struck me most about watching that video was how fantastic he sounded musically. During the performances, he is full of life, his voice is impeccable, he is engaging, and he plays the piano with gusto.

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As far as his looks, he looks alright, a little thin. I can't see anything glaring that would indicate serious health issues, but he was such a master at presenting himself well. He never allowed himself to look a mess while in public. I'm not a fan of the afro on him and I'm not really digging his style in the P&M shows either. I think he looked better with the hairstyle and clothing he had in 2011-2012. Also, is he wearing platform tennis shoes in some of those performances? The shoes he's wearing look different than the heels he wore for 20+ years.

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Reply #10 posted 05/28/17 3:15pm

justalongtimef
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Another thing people seem to forget. We compare how he looked years ago. Most of have watched him for 30 plus years. He just was getting old. Another thing that people never mention. I'm sure there were times that Prince fasted for weeks days or even a month. I know a few religous people that do that and look bad during those times. I believe that may have been a reason his weight went up and down at times.

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Reply #11 posted 05/28/17 3:46pm

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paulludvig said:



TrivialPursuit said:


He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.



how so?


Yes I'd like to know. Just because of how thin he was?
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Reply #12 posted 05/28/17 4:02pm

Dini

The man weighed 112 lbs. That is about what he weighed in his younger days - maybe 6 lbs lighter. I think he had lost a lot of muscle mass. He definitely was not as muscular as he had been. There are some pictures of his face that I found very alarming, but then in others, he looked as beautiful as he always does. In the end, Prince was an enigma, just as he has been his whole life.

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Reply #13 posted 05/28/17 4:18pm

AnnaStesia10

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I agree with you most of us have been watching and listening to Prince for over 30 years since the early 80s. So yes we are over critical and comparing him to the Prince from years past. I do agree with most on here that he was extra thin compared to Prince's normal thinness. And he looked tired, drained and something definitely was different in his eyes. I feel we all know his eyes the most they are so mesmerizing. Sparkle was gone. So many things could have caused this to be so.
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I can say for sure damn is voice was still smooth like butter. Man, is voice is so good! And watching this clip and others I find it trippy that Prince always seems to look directly into the camera of whoever is filming him even if it's a fan in the crowd from a good distance away. It's like he knew. Maybe I'm tripping that's just my vibe.

justalongtimefan said:

Another thing people seem to forget. We compare how he looked years ago. Most of have watched him for 30 plus years. He just was getting old. Another thing that people never mention. I'm sure there were times that Prince fasted for weeks days or even a month. I know a few religous people that do that and look bad during those times. I believe that may have been a reason his weight went up and down at times.


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Reply #14 posted 05/28/17 4:59pm

PurpleDiamonds
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leadline said:

57 minutes in, this is clips from the last show in much higher quality, there was a large debate when folks saw the old footage of this show how bad he looked, with the clearer version, what are all your thoughts now on his appearnce? Personally I think he looks fantastic.

https://youtu.be/no5SnVUBTKI




I agree...he sounded and looked great. One of his best vocal performances I have watched live.
Also agree with your other post and his hair was not a good look for him.
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Reply #15 posted 05/28/17 5:45pm

Pgeishirt

Thank you for the you tube link. I think he looked thin, frail, ill.


Does anyone know the song where he sings, " I could drink a case of you and still be standing."
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Reply #16 posted 05/28/17 6:13pm

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Why do you think he went back to the afro?

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Reply #17 posted 05/28/17 6:34pm

Bodhitheblackd
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Pgeishirt said:

Thank you for the you tube link. I think he looked thin, frail, ill. Does anyone know the song where he sings, " I could drink a case of you and still be standing."

"A Case of You" by his beloved Joni Mitchell. He literally performed throughout his career.

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/17 7:27pm

Flirt1

Bodhitheblackdog said:



Pgeishirt said:


Thank you for the you tube link. I think he looked thin, frail, ill. Does anyone know the song where he sings, " I could drink a case of you and still be standing."

"A Case of You" by his beloved Joni Mitchell. He literally performed throughout his career.



This looks like an audition for Heaven.
I am sure he made it.
I think he looks thin,pale,like someone who's been ill and is recovering.
What I see is an artist who has clear focus and endurance, not someone weak, faltering and unable to focus.
He has the lyrics projected but must have complete recall of all the chords and arpeggios for all the songs.
From my experience taking lots of anxiety reducing pain reducing drugs causes inability to focus, limitrd endurance and sometimes cramps in the hands.
Thank you for posting this beautiful concert.
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Reply #19 posted 05/28/17 8:10pm

bibrose

TrivialPursuit said:

He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.

What is the basis of your conclusion that P was an addict? There is an active homicide investigation still going on. The Toxicology report shows levels of toxicity that are intended to kill any human. It is irresponsible to be making the kinds of statements that you have made above. People on Prince.org feel they are entitled to comment any way they want to about P without regard to his rights and respect for his legacy. It needs to end. P has a right to his good name. You did not know him personally so you have no basis for the conclusions you have drawn that he was an addict. You would not want anyone to tarnish your good name or that of your family or friends, so why do it to someone you never knew personally?

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Reply #20 posted 05/28/17 8:36pm

TrivialPursuit

bibrose said:

What is the basis of your conclusion that P was an addict?


Oh for fuck's sake. Read a book. If he wasn't addicted to something, why would he have a pill to begin with???? Why would the doctor be coming in to help him detox and get off the stuff he was on?! He wasn't taking a pill thinking it was a TicTac and someone switched out Fentanyl. He died from a drug overdose. Why were there so many pills found around Paisley Park, why was he picking up prescriptions at Walgreens for years? What were they prescriptions for? An analgesic for a rash?!

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Reply #21 posted 05/28/17 8:46pm

laytonian

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MTV published an interesting article last year about Prince and time.
"No matter what his actual age, Prince always looked 33 years old."
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http://www.mtv.com/news/2...-phillips/
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Reply #22 posted 05/28/17 9:15pm

Dini

laytonian said:

. MTV published an interesting article last year about Prince and time. "No matter what his actual age, Prince always looked 33 years old." . http://www.mtv.com/news/2...-phillips/ .

Thank you for posting that link. I just read the article. It really does encaspsulate that wonderful other world-ness that Prince inhabited. He was here on the earth with us, but then again he wasn't. Hard to describe this man and how he did what he did. The author did a fine job of capturing some of that.

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Reply #23 posted 05/28/17 10:36pm

tigerlilyluv

purplerabbithole said:


He looks like he did in 2009 but with a fro



I was hoping I wasn't the only one that noticed he was his most fragile in 2009 and looked that way again in 2016. Seems to be the only 2 years where he looked seriously thin. Anyone can dispute it, but I think he was on something in 2009--what, I've no clue.
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Reply #24 posted 05/28/17 11:11pm

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So anyone who is thin it's because they're on drugs?
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Reply #25 posted 05/28/17 11:18pm

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bibrose said:

What is the basis of your conclusion that P was an addict? There is an active homicide investigation still going on. The Toxicology report shows levels of toxicity that are intended to kill any human. It is irresponsible to be making the kinds of statements that you have made above. People on Prince.org feel they are entitled to comment any way they want to about P without regard to his rights and respect for his legacy. It needs to end. P has a right to his good name. You did not know him personally so you have no basis for the conclusions you have drawn that he was an addict. You would not want anyone to tarnish your good name or that of your family or friends, so why do it to someone you never knew personally?

Can I just say thank you for saying this. People draw way too many conclusions based on not enough facts.
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Reply #26 posted 05/28/17 11:20pm

tigerlilyluv

rogifan said:

So anyone who is thin it's because they're on drugs?

I did not type anything of the sort. For you to assume it's what I typed... Are you a teenager?

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Reply #27 posted 05/29/17 5:18am

Wlcm2thdwn3

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Yeah. He looked sick around the last days. I can tell that his heart wanted to get up and jump around like he used to but his body just couldn't do it. To be honest. I felt something was not right with Prince a few years ago. When he first sarted performing sitting down. My inner alarms went off. sad

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Reply #28 posted 05/29/17 6:45am

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TrivialPursuit said:

He was very, very thin, more than I've ever seen him. He was also really pale. His eyes weren't as sparkly in photos that we're used to seeing otherwise. He was struggling with those fucking pills, for sure.

It's hard for me to listen to these Atlanta shows. It's the last one and the finality of that is a bit too much for even me. But the moments I have listened to had me surprised as just how clear and crisp his voice was in the show. He never slurred words.

People hooked on a drug that has to perform or be up and ready (like a celebrity or public figure) know how to manipulate the drug (ie: abuse it by using it other than how it's prescribed) in order to function while not necessarily appearing to be high from it. (And by high I mean altered by a drug in their system, not eyes rolling around or tweaking or acting crazy.) Prince knew, having been on them for a minute, how to use the drug in order to function and operate as 'normal' as he could. It's probably why no one ever saw anything else. The dude was good at it, as are a lot of people who suffer from an addiction. Opioids and other narcotics are addictive by nature. He's no different when taking them. But again, he knew how to take just enough to work, and put on a good show.

Frankly I was also surprised at how great Prince's voice stayed over the years. People's voices tend to lower with age, and artists will even perform songs in a lower key in concerts. They'll sometimes do that to save their voice from singing higher notes night after night. Prince never did that, to my knowledge. He was so spot on with his falsetto, etc.

But as far as his appearance, he moved okay, but his body was definitely showing the effects of addiction, and not eating as well.




--I honestly think this is one of the most ridiculous things I have read. Drug addicts do not have control over the drugs the drugs have control over them.
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Reply #29 posted 05/29/17 6:51am

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TrivialPursuit said:



bibrose said:



What is the basis of your conclusion that P was an addict?




Oh for fuck's sake. Read a book. If he wasn't addicted to something, why would he have a pill to begin with???? Why would the doctor be coming in to help him detox and get off the stuff he was on?! He wasn't taking a pill thinking it was a TicTac and someone switched out Fentanyl. He died from a drug overdose. Why were there so many pills found around Paisley Park, why was he picking up prescriptions at Walgreens for years? What were they prescriptions for? An analgesic for a rash?!


--Once again there is no proof of him picking up controlled substances from Walgreens. They found no record of controlled substances for him in the states for at least the last year. Stop getting your info from TMZ. Even if had been picking up RXs from Walgreens it would mean he had an Rx so what would be the big fucking deal other than invading his privacy. You need to go have several seats or try to keep up with what is going on.
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