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Thread started 06/10/17 12:06pm

datdude

Question about Wally (and crazy story)

Ok, so we know how mythic legend associated the song. Having never heard it, I was stunned at the thought that an acquaintance of mine named Wally who did security for Prince with Big Chick might somehow be the inspiration for the song somehow. Random thought, but for those whive heard it, what's it abt? I've known Wally for years but we just reconnected at the gym we go to. He mentioned a Prince tribute he was helping put on and that sparked a long conversation about him,us and how we didn't know we were both fans. He then showed me pics of him as security with Prince. I got home and thought wow, was that THE Wally?!?!
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Reply #1 posted 06/10/17 12:52pm

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Wally Safford? He was a lifelong friend to prince and given bodyguard and dancer jobs etc the song is referring to prince talking to him about the breakup with Susannah, Wendy's twin sister. But now that I think about it I think it's not just about that but also about breaking up the revolution itself as well and what that meant to him
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Reply #2 posted 06/10/17 4:48pm

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If the Wally you know is indeed Wally Safford then yes, this song was partly inspired by him.

It´s weird that the person who gave the song its title probably has no idea that the song even exists.

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Reply #3 posted 06/10/17 4:55pm

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KoolEaze said:

If the Wally you know is indeed Wally Safford then yes, this song was partly inspired by him.

It´s weird that the person who gave the song its title probably has no idea that the song even exists.

wink

If the op is telling the truth, ...eh nevermind, because either way, Wally Safford knows about the song I'm sure.

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Reply #4 posted 06/10/17 5:08pm

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Wally Safford's facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/wally.safford

rdhull said:

KoolEaze said:

If the Wally you know is indeed Wally Safford then yes, this song was partly inspired by him.

It´s weird that the person who gave the song its title probably has no idea that the song even exists.

wink

If the op is telling the truth, ...eh nevermind, because either way, Wally Safford knows about the song I'm sure.

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Reply #5 posted 06/10/17 5:14pm

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ok, he has a fb page

purplerabbithole said:

Wally Safford's facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/wally.safford

rdhull said:

If the op is telling the truth, ...eh nevermind, because either way, Wally Safford knows about the song I'm sure.

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Reply #6 posted 06/10/17 8:59pm

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rdhull said:

ok, he has a fb page

purplerabbithole said:

Wally Safford's facebook page...

https://www.facebook.com/wally.safford

Not only that, but it looks like maybe Jerome Benton has one, too. This facebook thing might be catching on--maybe I should get one? I'm always hesitant to just jump on the latest trends.

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Reply #7 posted 06/10/17 9:21pm

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wow, OMG. totally stunned right now. so thanks to this thread, i click on the fb link and ITS HIM. the ONE friend we have in common is the pastor we've shared for the last 20 years!! (we had different "friend circles" and kept our conversations short and about our spouses and family). man, next time i see him at the gym, we're grabbing lunch on me after, cause our conversations are about to change. so much to pick his brain on. you all just don't know. its not a lot of black men in detroit, i get to talk about prince with on a REAL level! SMH. simply STUNNED, that this is THEE wally of lure. the org has helped me connect a dot that was in front of me for years.

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Reply #8 posted 06/10/17 9:44pm

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datdude said:

wow, OMG. totally stunned right now. so thanks to this thread, i click on the fb link and ITS HIM. the ONE friend we have in common is the pastor we've shared for the last 20 years!! (we had different "friend circles" and kept our conversations short and about our spouses and family). man, next time i see him at the gym, we're grabbing lunch on me after, cause our conversations are about to change. so much to pick his brain on. you all just don't know. its not a lot of black men in detroit, i get to talk about prince with on a REAL level! SMH. simply STUNNED, that this is THEE wally of lure. the org has helped me connect a dot that was in front of me for years.


Yeah, well when you get the stories from him, they go here on the org! Word for word!
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Reply #9 posted 06/11/17 2:59am

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datdude said:

wow, OMG. totally stunned right now. so thanks to this thread, i click on the fb link and ITS HIM. the ONE friend we have in common is the pastor we've shared for the last 20 years!! (we had different "friend circles" and kept our conversations short and about our spouses and family). man, next time i see him at the gym, we're grabbing lunch on me after, cause our conversations are about to change. so much to pick his brain on. you all just don't know. its not a lot of black men in detroit, i get to talk about prince with on a REAL level! SMH. simply STUNNED, that this is THEE wally of lure. the org has helped me connect a dot that was in front of me for years.

I´ve known you from the org for so many years, yet it´s only now that you find out that the Wally you´ve known for so many years is THE Wally Safford? lol

It´s such a small world, isn´t it ?

Ask him if he even knows that there´s a song with his name as its title.

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Reply #10 posted 06/11/17 6:53am

paulludvig

New interview featuring Wally (thanks Latin!)

http://www.fox2detroit.com/good-day/260041035-story

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #11 posted 06/11/17 9:20am

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How is it he didn't know Wally was from the Prince camp?

KoolEaze said:

datdude said:

wow, OMG. totally stunned right now. so thanks to this thread, i click on the fb link and ITS HIM. the ONE friend we have in common is the pastor we've shared for the last 20 years!! (we had different "friend circles" and kept our conversations short and about our spouses and family). man, next time i see him at the gym, we're grabbing lunch on me after, cause our conversations are about to change. so much to pick his brain on. you all just don't know. its not a lot of black men in detroit, i get to talk about prince with on a REAL level! SMH. simply STUNNED, that this is THEE wally of lure. the org has helped me connect a dot that was in front of me for years.

I´ve known you from the org for so many years, yet it´s only now that you find out that the

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Reply #12 posted 06/11/17 12:36pm

EnDoRpHn

KoolEaze said:

If the Wally you know is indeed Wally Safford then yes, this song was partly inspired by him.

It´s weird that the person who gave the song its title probably has no idea that the song even exists.

wink

Of course he knew. He talks about the song about 90 seconds into JB's livestream from this Detroit radio interview (Friday, June 9, 2017):

https://www.facebook.com/...011104407/

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Reply #13 posted 06/11/17 8:02pm

datdude

KoolEaze said:

datdude said:

wow, OMG. totally stunned right now. so thanks to this thread, i click on the fb link and ITS HIM. the ONE friend we have in common is the pastor we've shared for the last 20 years!! (we had different "friend circles" and kept our conversations short and about our spouses and family). man, next time i see him at the gym, we're grabbing lunch on me after, cause our conversations are about to change. so much to pick his brain on. you all just don't know. its not a lot of black men in detroit, i get to talk about prince with on a REAL level! SMH. simply STUNNED, that this is THEE wally of lure. the org has helped me connect a dot that was in front of me for years.

I´ve known you from the org for so many years, yet it´s only now that you find out that the Wally you´ve known for so many years is THE Wally Safford? lol

It´s such a small world, isn´t it ?

Ask him if he even knows that there´s a song with his name as its title.

i guess you meant you've "known me" from the standpoint of POSTING on the org, because otherwise...

to clarify what i thought i'd made clear. i've known wally for years. we NEVER talked about music or prince, so there was NO REASON to make the connection. he mentioned a tribute event he was part of here locally and i was like 'you're a prince fan...?' THEN he proceeded to show me pics of him as Prince's bodyguard. i'm floored, then i go home and ponder it, THEN...i'm STUNNED. because in Princeworld there is only ONE Wally...

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Reply #15 posted 06/12/17 2:25am

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datdude said:

KoolEaze said:

I´ve known you from the org for so many years, yet it´s only now that you find out that the Wally you´ve known for so many years is THE Wally Safford? lol

It´s such a small world, isn´t it ?

Ask him if he even knows that there´s a song with his name as its title.

i guess you meant you've "known me" from the standpoint of POSTING on the org, because otherwise...

to clarify what i thought i'd made clear. i've known wally for years. we NEVER talked about music or prince, so there was NO REASON to make the connection. he mentioned a tribute event he was part of here locally and i was like 'you're a prince fan...?' THEN he proceeded to show me pics of him as Prince's bodyguard. i'm floored, then i go home and ponder it, THEN...i'm STUNNED. because in Princeworld there is only ONE Wally...

Of course from posting on the org.....but that´s what I said.

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Reply #16 posted 06/12/17 3:40am

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Crazy and cool! A very similar thing happened to my friend (also a Prince fan) who recently reconnected with an old school friend, only to find out that she used to be Prince's manager! Sadly their reunion happened after 21/04 last year.
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Reply #17 posted 06/12/17 8:49am

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Yes.

The reason the song is named after Wally is because the context of the song is that of Prince talking to (or more appropriately, singing to) Wally that he wants to go out to a club and find a new girl because he's had his heart broken (by Susannah, although she's not mentioned by name in the song).

Prince asks Wally if he can try his sunglasses on. He then asks if Wally is gonna go to the club with "that same dame" and that he's "wondering if she has a sister, cuz that dame is so fine!"

One of the most heartbreaking parts to me is a lyric where Prince sings "If I don't find somebody......somebody will find me." - He sounds desperately lonely and heartbroken when singing this part. That's what Susan Rogers meant when she said she'd ached to hear him be that honest. This whole concept of him being so lonely that even if he doesn't find someone he digs, that he'll just go home with anyone as it'd still be better than being alone.




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Reply #18 posted 06/12/17 9:10am

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!!!!ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY, MILITANT HAS THE SONG!!!!!

lol lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/12/17 12:34pm

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paulludvig said:

New interview featuring Wally (thanks Latin!)

http://www.fox2detroit.com/good-day/260041035-story

cool i gotta check it out, i always wondered where some of those new guys in that era were really coming from. It seemed to take Prince back to his community which guys like Matt Fink and Wendy seemed to resent but I never got a chance to hear him speak or talk.

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Reply #20 posted 06/12/17 12:43pm

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rdhull said:

!!!!ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY, MILITANT HAS THE SONG!!!!!

lol lol


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I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
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Reply #21 posted 06/12/17 12:49pm

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rdhull said:

!!!!ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY, MILITANT HAS THE SONG!!!!!

lol lol

ya but we're not suppossed to ask for stuff like that are we? Also, Susan Rogers opinion about Condition of The Heart made me doubt how great Wally actually is. Condition is ok and an illustration of his oft neglected keyboard skills but it's not one of my personal Prince faves.

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Reply #22 posted 06/12/17 1:11pm

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PeteSilas said:

rdhull said:

!!!!ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY, MILITANT HAS THE SONG!!!!!

lol lol

ya but we're not suppossed to ask for stuff like that are we? .

whos asking?

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Reply #23 posted 06/12/17 1:13pm

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Yes.

The reason the song is named after Wally is because the context of the song is that of Prince talking to (or more appropriately, singing to) Wally that he wants to go out to a club and find a new girl because he's had his heart broken (by Susannah, although she's not mentioned by name in the song).

Prince asks Wally if he can try his sunglasses on. He then asks if Wally is gonna go to the club with "that same dame" and that he's "wondering if she has a sister, cuz that dame is so fine!"

One of the most heartbreaking parts to me is a lyric where Prince sings "If I don't find somebody......somebody will find me." - He sounds desperately lonely and heartbroken when singing this part. That's what Susan Rogers meant when she said she'd ached to hear him be that honest. This whole concept of him being so lonely that even if he doesn't find someone he digs, that he'll just go home with anyone as it'd still be better than being alone.




Prince didn't know that Susannah had a sister? lol

Seriously, do we know that the song was about Susannah? Is there anything in particular in the song that could only refer to Susannah. The idea for the song seems to go back at least to Billy's Sunglasses, so I'm not convinced the song was about things going on in his life at the time of recording.

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #24 posted 06/12/17 1:22pm

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paulludvig said:

Militant said:

Yes.

The reason the song is named after Wally is because the context of the song is that of Prince talking to (or more appropriately, singing to) Wally that he wants to go out to a club and find a new girl because he's had his heart broken (by Susannah, although she's not mentioned by name in the song).

Prince asks Wally if he can try his sunglasses on. He then asks if Wally is gonna go to the club with "that same dame" and that he's "wondering if she has a sister, cuz that dame is so fine!"

One of the most heartbreaking parts to me is a lyric where Prince sings "If I don't find somebody......somebody will find me." - He sounds desperately lonely and heartbroken when singing this part. That's what Susan Rogers meant when she said she'd ached to hear him be that honest. This whole concept of him being so lonely that even if he doesn't find someone he digs, that he'll just go home with anyone as it'd still be better than being alone.




Prince didn't know that Susannah had a sister? lol

Seriously, do we know that the song was about Susannah? Is there anything in particular in the song that could only refer to Susannah. The idea for the song seems to go back at least to Billy's Sunglasses, so I'm not convinced the song was about things going on in his life at the time of recording.

It's been said that one line is the only thing Wally and Billy Sunglasses share. As for the inspiration, Wally was recorded just after Susannah left and Susan Rogers has suggested that he'd been a bit mopey about it.

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Reply #25 posted 06/12/17 1:26pm

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TwiliteKid said:

paulludvig said:

Prince didn't know that Susannah had a sister? lol

Seriously, do we know that the song was about Susannah? Is there anything in particular in the song that could only refer to Susannah. The idea for the song seems to go back at least to Billy's Sunglasses, so I'm not convinced the song was about things going on in his life at the time of recording.

It's been said that one line is the only thing Wally and Billy Sunglasses share. As for the inspiration, Wally was recorded just after Susannah left and Susan Rogers has suggested that he'd been a bit mopey about it.

I can see why Susan Rogers THINKS it is about Susannah, but she can't know for sure, can she? I think this might be another Strange Relationship or The Beautiful Ones, song that people thought were about Susannah but wasn't.

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Reply #26 posted 06/12/17 1:37pm

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Militant said:

Yes.



The reason the song is named after Wally is because the context of the song is that of Prince talking to (or more appropriately, singing to) Wally that he wants to go out to a club and find a new girl because he's had his heart broken (by Susannah, although she's not mentioned by name in the song).



Prince asks Wally if he can try his sunglasses on. He then asks if Wally is gonna go to the club with "that same dame" and that he's "wondering if she has a sister, cuz that dame is so fine!"

One of the most heartbreaking parts to me is a lyric where Prince sings "If I don't find somebody.....somebody will find me." - He sounds desperately lonely and heartbroken when singing this part. That's what Susan Rogers meant when she said she'd ached to hear him be that honest. This whole concept of him being so lonely that even if he doesn't find someone he digs, that he'll just go home with anyone as it'd still be better than being alone.





That's a bit of an assumption considering Susan was referring to version 1 of wally, which has totally different lyrics in which Prince choose NOT to go out, gives Wally back his glasses and $50 he borrowed and stays at home to drown his sorrows.

(Allegedly)
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paulludvig said:

Militant said:

Yes.

The reason the song is named after Wally is because the context of the song is that of Prince talking to (or more appropriately, singing to) Wally that he wants to go out to a club and find a new girl because he's had his heart broken (by Susannah, although she's not mentioned by name in the song).

Prince asks Wally if he can try his sunglasses on. He then asks if Wally is gonna go to the club with "that same dame" and that he's "wondering if she has a sister, cuz that dame is so fine!"

One of the most heartbreaking parts to me is a lyric where Prince sings "If I don't find somebody......somebody will find me." - He sounds desperately lonely and heartbroken when singing this part. That's what Susan Rogers meant when she said she'd ached to hear him be that honest. This whole concept of him being so lonely that even if he doesn't find someone he digs, that he'll just go home with anyone as it'd still be better than being alone.






Prince didn't know that Susannah had a sister? lol

Seriously, do we know that the song was about Susannah? Is there anything in particular in the song that could only refer to Susannah. The idea for the song seems to go back at least to Billy's Sunglasses, so I'm not convinced the song was about things going on in his life at the time of recording.



No, you're misunderstanding.

Prince is asking Wally if Wally is still going out with another girl - unidentified random girl, because apparently that girl is fine, and he wants to know if THAT girl has a sister, because Prince needs a new girl, because Prince has broken up with Susannah.

Get it? lol










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Reply #28 posted 06/12/17 1:43pm

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paulludvig said:

TwiliteKid said:

It's been said that one line is the only thing Wally and Billy Sunglasses share. As for the inspiration, Wally was recorded just after Susannah left and Susan Rogers has suggested that he'd been a bit mopey about it.

I can see why Susan Rogers THINKS it is about Susannah, but she can't know for sure, can she? I think this might be another Strange Relationship or The Beautiful Ones, song that people thought were about Susannah but wasn't.

dude did have a lot of women, jill jones, appolonia, vanity, sussanah, etc.., we never knew what was going on or how serious as fans. I still remmeber hearing about sussanah and i just thought it was a rumour when i was a kid because I thought she was too plain looking, i didn't get the attraction.

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Reply #29 posted 06/12/17 1:44pm

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paulludvig said:



Prince didn't know that Susannah had a sister? lol

Seriously, do we know that the song was about Susannah? Is there anything in particular in the song that could only refer to Susannah. The idea for the song seems to go back at least to Billy's Sunglasses, so I'm not convinced the song was about things going on in his life at the time of recording.



No, you're misunderstanding.

Prince is asking Wally if Wally is still going out with another girl - unidentified random girl, because apparently that girl is fine, and he wants to know if THAT girl has a sister, because Prince needs a new girl, because Prince has broken up with Susannah.

Get it? lol










Aha! But it still doesn't mention Susannah?

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