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Thread started 07/02/17 12:49pm

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THE PRINCE PODCAST - PAISLEY PARK IN CRISIS?

Host Michael Dean speaks with Ronchelle Nelsom, who recorded an interesting video about her recent firing from her job as a tour guide at Paisley Park. She tells us her side of the story and explains how the tour guides are trained.

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Reply #1 posted 07/02/17 12:57pm

rogifan

Not listening to this. Apparently she was ranting on social media and claimed it was a racial thing. rolleyes
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Reply #2 posted 07/02/17 1:40pm

CandyCool

rogifan said:

Not listening to this. Apparently she was ranting on social media and claimed it was a racial thing. rolleyes


I have listened to it and, yes, she implies that that might have played a role. She got fired over inappropriate photos taken inside PP. I don't really think we are getting the full picture here. She doesn't explain what happened in those pics. If they were bad enough to get fired over, there must be more to the story imo.
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Reply #3 posted 07/02/17 2:15pm

maceoparker007

Thieves in the Temple....literally!

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Reply #4 posted 07/02/17 2:26pm

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CandyCool said:

rogifan said:
Not listening to this. Apparently she was ranting on social media and claimed it was a racial thing. rolleyes
I have listened to it and, yes, she implies that that might have played a role. She got fired over inappropriate photos taken inside PP. I don't really think we are getting the full picture here. She doesn't explain what happened in those pics. If they were bad enough to get fired over, there must be more to the story imo.


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Reply #5 posted 07/02/17 3:20pm

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CandyCool said:

rogifan said:

Not listening to this. Apparently she was ranting on social media and claimed it was a racial thing. rolleyes


I have listened to it and, yes, she implies that that might have played a role. She got fired over inappropriate photos taken inside PP. I don't really think we are getting the full picture here. She doesn't explain what happened in those pics. If they were bad enough to get fired over, there must be more to the story imo.

She has posted the pics. She is just standing in front of his picture. Nothing gross or indecent.
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Reply #6 posted 07/02/17 3:36pm

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Where is that pic where they were all in a cheerleading pyramid one on top of the other pose? (it has disappeared off her page), that if anyone fell there could of been serious injuries. A bunch of black chicks and one or two white chicks who all got fired. Who would even do that in the house of Prince!

Me and others in the org chat room were discussing the group cheer leader pyramid pose pic on June 29th. lol Others mentioned they had seen that too.

Also, they were wearing their work shirts -- off the clock or not that shirt represents the employer.

One pic was of the conga line (in their PP work shirts), the 2nd pic was of the cheerleader pyramid (also wearing their work shirts).

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Reply #7 posted 07/02/17 3:37pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

CandyCool said:



I have listened to it and, yes, she implies that that might have played a role. She got fired over inappropriate photos taken inside PP. I don't really think we are getting the full picture here. She doesn't explain what happened in those pics. If they were bad enough to get fired over, there must be more to the story imo.

She has posted the pics. She is just standing in front of his picture. Nothing gross or indecent.

Sorry still a stupid thing to do. She wasn’t on a tour she was an employee. Her skin color had fuck all to do with it.
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Reply #8 posted 07/02/17 4:19pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


She has posted the pics. She is just standing in front of his picture. Nothing gross or indecent.

Sorry still a stupid thing to do. She wasn’t on a tour she was an employee. Her skin color had fuck all to do with it.

--You do not work there so you have no idea what work environment was like. I will listen to what she has to say first before I pass judgement. Anything about race is a waste of time on this board.
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Reply #9 posted 07/02/17 4:26pm

leadline

everbody's' got to get their piece in.......I laughed at this, was I supposed to feel something?

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Reply #10 posted 07/02/17 5:46pm

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this place hates race conversations lol

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Reply #11 posted 07/02/17 6:19pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


Sorry still a stupid thing to do. She wasn’t on a tour she was an employee. Her skin color had fuck all to do with it.

--You do not work there so you have no idea what work environment was like. I will listen to what she has to say first before I pass judgement. Anything about race is a waste of time on this board.


Laura, disrespectful horseplay, wearing your work uniforms and posing for silly pictures in the office and posing them on social media, will get you fired from Walgreens.
This caper was done inside Paisley Park.
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I saw both photos.
This was unprofessional behaviour.
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Reply #12 posted 07/02/17 6:40pm

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:


--You do not work there so you have no idea what work environment was like. I will listen to what she has to say first before I pass judgement. Anything about race is a waste of time on this board.


Laura, disrespectful horseplay, wearing your work uniforms and posing for silly pictures in the office and posing them on social media, will get you fired from Walgreens.
This caper was done inside Paisley Park.
.
I saw both photos.
This was unprofessional behaviour.
.

--I did not say she should not have been fired. I said we do not know the environment at Paisly Park and I will listen to what she has to say
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Reply #13 posted 07/03/17 3:14am

Laydown

Who cares if someone got fired from PP?

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Reply #14 posted 07/03/17 6:22am

SoulAlive

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:



Laura, disrespectful horseplay, wearing your work uniforms and posing for silly pictures in the office and posing them on social media, will get you fired from Walgreens.
This caper was done inside Paisley Park.
.
I saw both photos.
This was unprofessional behaviour.
.

--I did not say she should not have been fired. I said we do not know the environment at Paisly Park and I will listen to what she has to say


regardless of the work environment,her behavior was unprofessional and she deserved to get fired.Playing around at work during company time,and then posting the pics on social media,is unacceptable.
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Reply #15 posted 07/03/17 6:25am

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:
--You do not work there so you have no idea what work environment was like. I will listen to what she has to say first before I pass judgement. Anything about race is a waste of time on this board.
Laura, disrespectful horseplay, wearing your work uniforms and posing for silly pictures in the office and posing them on social media, will get you fired from Walgreens. This caper was done inside Paisley Park. . I saw both photos. This was unprofessional behaviour. .



this. and i'm thinking that all employees are likely required to sign a confidentiality agreement agreeing not to post anything like pictures from PP on social media.

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Reply #16 posted 07/03/17 6:34am

laytonian

XxAxX said:



laytonian said:


laurarichardson said:
--You do not work there so you have no idea what work environment was like. I will listen to what she has to say first before I pass judgement. Anything about race is a waste of time on this board.

Laura, disrespectful horseplay, wearing your work uniforms and posing for silly pictures in the office and posing them on social media, will get you fired from Walgreens. This caper was done inside Paisley Park. . I saw both photos. This was unprofessional behaviour. .



this. and i'm thinking that all employees are likely required to sign a confidentiality agreement agreeing not to post anything like pictures from PP on social media.


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Yes.
Everyone knows there is a "no photos" policy at Paisley.
It should not be a surprise.
As for management and racism: Kirk Johnson is employed there. He's not the only AA there.
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Reply #17 posted 07/03/17 7:36am

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laytonian said:

XxAxX said:



this. and i'm thinking that all employees are likely required to sign a confidentiality agreement agreeing not to post anything like pictures from PP on social media.

. Yes. Everyone knows there is a "no photos" policy at Paisley. It should not be a surprise. As for management and racism: Kirk Johnson is employed there. He's not the only AA there. .

Did you listen? Because if you did not refrain from commenting and until you listen.

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Reply #18 posted 07/03/17 8:10am

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My wife and I were planning on going in mid September, but PP's not even taking reservations for that time yet. Now to hear about potential turmoil and staffing issues, I'm hoping there's something to tour. It's not the main reason we're going to MPLS, but while we're there I'd absolutely love to visit.

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Reply #19 posted 07/03/17 8:18am

rogifan

Wait people other than this disgruntled ex-employee think the people running PP might be racist? eek
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Reply #20 posted 07/03/17 8:20am

rogifan

injuredpinky said:

My wife and I were planning on going in mid September, but PP's not even taking reservations for that time yet. Now to hear about potential turmoil and staffing issues, I'm hoping there's something to tour. It's not the main reason we're going to MPLS, but while we're there I'd absolutely love to visit.


There are no issues. I just walked over the the other day and they had finished some nice landscaping around the place where visitors exit. This is one disgruntled employee fired for doing something she should have been smart enough to know not to do.
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Reply #21 posted 07/03/17 8:40am

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rogifan said:

Wait people other than this disgruntled ex-employee think the people running PP might be racist? eek

Okay once again you did not listen to the podcast.

1) She does not spend 30 mind ranting about racism.

2) Admits to being angry on her video but now has calmed down.

3) Things people should see go out to vest.

4) Hardcore fan who had received praise for her knowledge while giving the tours.

5) Complaints. It appears that the HR polices are not clear, pay is very low and HR issues need to be addressed. These are not things related to racism and many small business have these issues.

6) No black people working in upper management. KJ is not a manger, He is working as a consultant per his contract with the Comerica. Diversity is important and a little weird that they cannot find anyone to work in an upper management positon that might have some knowledge.

7) Tour guides are still not knowledgeable about Prince after almost a year. Should pay more due to the distance from the city.

8) All guides are part -time and the staff was recently reduced meaning more work for those remaining same low pays.

9) Her concerns are valid, she was not yelling and she is a longtime fan who generally seems concerned.

Stop assuming the worst all the time. As fans, we want the property to stay afloat and one of the reasons the estate is having problems is the refusal to listen to anyone that was a fan or an associate that may be able to help.

Arrogance accomplishes nothing.

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Reply #22 posted 07/03/17 10:38am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:



rogifan said:


Wait people other than this disgruntled ex-employee think the people running PP might be racist? eek

Okay once again you did not listen to the podcast.


1) She does not spend 30 mind ranting about racism.


2) Admits to being angry on her video but now has calmed down.


3) Things people should see go out to vest.


4) Hardcore fan who had received praise for her knowledge while giving the tours.


5) Complaints. It appears that the HR polices are not clear, pay is very low and HR issues need to be addressed. These are not things related to racism and many small business have these issues.



6) No black people working in upper management. KJ is not a manger, He is working as a consultant per his contract with the Comerica. Diversity is important and a little weird that they cannot find anyone to work in an upper management positon that might have some knowledge.



7) Tour guides are still not knowledgeable about Prince after almost a year. Should pay more due to the distance from the city.



8) All guides are part -time and the staff was recently reduced meaning more work for those remaining same low pays.



9) Her concerns are valid, she was not yelling and she is a longtime fan who generally seems concerned.



Stop assuming the worst all the time. As fans, we want the property to stay afloat and one of the reasons the estate is having problems is the refusal to listen to anyone that was a fan or an associate that may be able to help.



Arrogance accomplishes nothing.




All one sided from a disgruntled employee who gets sympathy from fams who think anyone involved with the estate, PP, etc. is not to be trusted. I’m sure the people running PP right now have more important things to worry about than the diversity of management. I’d worry more about the knowledge of the tour guides than the skin color of anyone. As far as I’m concerned Prince fans don’t have a color.
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Reply #23 posted 07/03/17 10:41am

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Okay once again you did not listen to the podcast.

1) She does not spend 30 mind ranting about racism.

2) Admits to being angry on her video but now has calmed down.

3) Things people should see go out to vest.

4) Hardcore fan who had received praise for her knowledge while giving the tours.

5) Complaints. It appears that the HR polices are not clear, pay is very low and HR issues need to be addressed. These are not things related to racism and many small business have these issues.

6) No black people working in upper management. KJ is not a manger, He is working as a consultant per his contract with the Comerica. Diversity is important and a little weird that they cannot find anyone to work in an upper management positon that might have some knowledge.

7) Tour guides are still not knowledgeable about Prince after almost a year. Should pay more due to the distance from the city.

8) All guides are part -time and the staff was recently reduced meaning more work for those remaining same low pays.

9) Her concerns are valid, she was not yelling and she is a longtime fan who generally seems concerned.

Stop assuming the worst all the time. As fans, we want the property to stay afloat and one of the reasons the estate is having problems is the refusal to listen to anyone that was a fan or an associate that may be able to help.

Arrogance accomplishes nothing.

All one sided from a disgruntled employee who gets sympathy from fams who think anyone involved with the estate, PP, etc. is not to be trusted. I’m sure the people running PP right now have more important things to worry about than the diversity of management. I’d worry more about the knowledge of the tour guides than the skin color of anyone. As far as I’m concerned Prince fans don’t have a color.

One of her concerns is the current tour guides do not have any knowledge. So you kind of agree with her and diveristy is important since the artist in question is African- American and he managed to have divese work force.

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Reply #24 posted 08/22/17 12:35pm

ksl1974

Ronchelle was our tour guide when we were last there!!!!! She was awesome I thought!!

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Reply #25 posted 08/22/17 8:46pm

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rogifan said:

Not listening to this. Apparently she was ranting on social media and claimed it was a racial thing. rolleyes

Wow. This comment is disappointing. First, you're not going to listen to it, but you post this and several other comments. So all your comments are going to lack context and be based on assumptions and rumor. Sad.

Second, your hear that she "apparently ... claimed it was racial thing." So you haven't even listened to this other material either. Double sad.

Third, you dismiss the possibility that this could have something to do with race without listening to her explanation. Triple sad.

About all I can conclude is that you think racism is imaginary. Must be nice going through life with your eyes, ears, and mind closed.

(I'd love to hear your response, especially if you're willing to reconsider some, or even if you disagree. I want to open up the conversation, not try to shut you down or anybody else on this thread.)
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Reply #26 posted 08/23/17 9:38am

RJOrion

tab32792 said:

this place hates race conversations lol




most racists hate race conversation...i see that here too...comments from a black perspective often get removed...like this one probably will
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Reply #27 posted 08/23/17 10:49am

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Why is this a thread? One employee fired and now PP is in distress? Doubt it
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Reply #28 posted 08/23/17 11:14am

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Why is this a thread? One employee fired and now PP is in distress? Doubt it

If I heard correctly on the podcast, she said that several employees were fired. It sounded like most or all of the employees in the photos were let go.
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Reply #29 posted 08/23/17 11:31am

Purplestar88

They should have people who are knowlegeable of Prince and the things that are on display, they can't not assume people know a lot about Prince. Diversity matters in today's world. They need to paid people more because the place is far and they are charging an arm and a leg for the tours and such. As time goes by I they make inprovements how they run the place and how they treat workers. This lady makes some interesting and good points. It did make me sad to hear that some people were laughing when some people got a emotional seeing Prince's urn and people making rude comments.

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