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Thread started 09/02/17 8:06am

Seahorsie

His earthly remains.....the ashes

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

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Reply #1 posted 09/02/17 8:40am

LRCdancer88

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I also felt it was a little strange. I'm not sure what exactly would be more appropriate because I know they tried something at eye level and people didn't like that either. The choice of the atrium was probably a good one as it is open and bright/hopeful, but I hear what you're saying.
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Reply #2 posted 09/02/17 8:55am

babynoz

I didn't see the need to move it in the first place. it was okay where it was.

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Reply #3 posted 09/02/17 10:24am

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Op said last month he visited, I thought they had stopped visits? Or are they year round now?
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Reply #4 posted 09/02/17 12:12pm

kingricefan

The urn used to be on a pedestal in the middle of the atrium, didn't it? Then it was moved to the spot on the wall up above the kitchen. I'm glad it was moved because I always worried that someone would steal it. But, it's in an odd spot right now and is difficult to see as the plexi is not very clear. You can just make out the top of the urn but I couldn't even see the bottom portions. Our VIP tour guide told us right off the bat where it was located and respectfully gave us a couple of minutes of alone time to absorb the moment. I knew where it was before hand but I'm sure it still comes as a shock to those who aren't prepared for it. Perhaps Paisley Park will move it again in the future and possibly create a special space for it?

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Reply #5 posted 09/02/17 2:37pm

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Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

it is wierd, but the whole situation is still surreal. everyday i have to remind myself he's gone.

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Reply #6 posted 09/02/17 2:44pm

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It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?
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Reply #7 posted 09/02/17 3:05pm

PeteSilas

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?

recently there was some issue with elvis' grave and being charged.

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Reply #8 posted 09/02/17 3:11pm

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Do yall REALLY believe that his ashes are there on display?

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #9 posted 09/02/17 3:14pm

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PeteSilas said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?

recently there was some issue with elvis' grave and being charged.





Graceland lets fans visit Elvis grave without paying for a tour, every morning for a few hours...so you can visit his final resting place for zero dollars...
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Reply #10 posted 09/02/17 3:33pm

PeteSilas

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PeteSilas said:

recently there was some issue with elvis' grave and being charged.

Graceland lets fans visit Elvis grave without paying for a tour, every morning for a few hours...so you can visit his final resting place for zero dollars...

last week there was some fuss about it, i didn't look too closely but it said that fans were being charged to get to his grave.

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Reply #11 posted 09/02/17 3:50pm

kingricefan

What about those icons that you can't even have access to the final resting place like Princess Diana? At least at Paisley Park you can stand there, say a few words quietly and let the tears flow if you want to. PP was Prince's home, his creative space and where I think his ashes should be at rest.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?

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Reply #12 posted 09/02/17 4:33pm

thedoorkeeper

There should be a special room with a miniature version of Minneapolis with a mountain in the middle with the urn sitting at the top. There would be tracks running around the miniature city with a Purple Train running 24/7.
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Reply #13 posted 09/02/17 4:37pm

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Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

I suppose his family think it's a money spinner. Well, no visit for me on principle. I don't believe for a second he's in that shitty thing I just can't believe for a second he'd have asked to be put in such a terrible, non-scale model of PP, looks hideous. Tacky, cheap looking and disrespectful. He deserves a proper headstone, grave, or tomb. Not a freakshow. I think it's disturbing. I suppose the lack of a Will from him brought this ugliness from his family. But that's another story. I believe there probably was a Will. It's ashes are probably in that Urn. sad

[Edited 9/2/17 17:01pm]

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #14 posted 09/02/17 4:50pm

LOVESYMBOLNUMB
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kingricefan said:

What about those icons that you can't even have access to the final resting place like Princess Diana? At least at Paisley Park you can stand there, say a few words quietly and let the tears flow if you want to. PP was Prince's home, his creative space and where I think his ashes should be at rest.



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?





Deciding to keep a famous persons resting place private is very very very very differnt than charging a fee to mourn and reflect and pay respects...
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Reply #15 posted 09/02/17 4:51pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

There should be a special room with a miniature version of Minneapolis with a mountain in the middle with the urn sitting at the top. There would be tracks running around the miniature city with a Purple Train running 24/7.




Don't you mean orange train?
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Reply #16 posted 09/02/17 5:22pm

onediva

PeteSilas said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


PeteSilas said:


recently there was some issue with elvis' grave and being charged.



Graceland lets fans visit Elvis grave without paying for a tour, every morning for a few hours...so you can visit his final resting place for zero dollars...

last week there was some fuss about it, i didn't look too closely but it said that fans were being charged to get to his grave.



True, Elvis fans were being charged to view the gravesite and attend the vigil to cover the cost of extra security during this years Elvis week festivities.
[Edited 9/2/17 17:23pm]
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Reply #17 posted 09/02/17 5:25pm

ThatWhiteDude

I know I'm going a bit off topic, but is it just me or are there any other people, who couldn't go to PP? I don't maybe in a couple years, but it feels so fresh and everytime I read that someone went there I get goosebumps, it feels strange just reading it.

Dig if you will the picture, of me and Marvin Gaye with the kids.
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Reply #18 posted 09/02/17 7:34pm

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Marrk said:

Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

I suppose his family think it's a money spinner. Well, no visit for me on principle. I don't believe for a second he's in that shitty thing I just can't believe for a second he'd have asked to be put in such a terrible, non-scale model of PP, looks hideous. Tacky, cheap looking and disrespectful. He deserves a proper headstone, grave, or tomb. Not a freakshow. I think it's disturbing. I suppose the lack of a Will from him brought this ugliness from his family. But that's another story. I believe there probably was a Will. It's ashes are probably in that Urn. sad

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Reply #19 posted 09/02/17 7:46pm

rogifan

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

It is not where princes remains are located inside paisley...it is the fact that if you want to pay your respects in person, you have to pay money to do so...that's very tacky and weirdly disrespectful to prince and the fans..what other icon do you have to pay money to visit and muse at their final resting place?

You can go and stand outside Paisley Park any time you want and pay your respects. It doesn’t cost you a dime. I seriously hope nobody is suggesting that people should be allowed inside Paisley Park for free.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #20 posted 09/02/17 7:49pm

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Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.



We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.



The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??


The only reason it wasn’t weird for me is I knew it was there and had prepared myself for it. The tour guide I had also framed it as he’s watching over everyone who comes through. But I can definitely see the argument to having it in a special room where people can privately pay their respects at the end of their tour.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
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Reply #21 posted 09/02/17 8:00pm

cantstop

If you don't know it's coming while on the tour it's definitely a gut punch. I wasn't prepared for the tour, let alone his ashes above you while your checking out his little kitchen. It feels weird. Right or wrong. Weird.
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Reply #22 posted 09/02/17 8:04pm

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Pass the tissues.
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Reply #23 posted 09/02/17 11:09pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

I know I'm going a bit off topic, but is it just me or are there any other people, who couldn't go to PP? I don't maybe in a couple years, but it feels so fresh and everytime I read that someone went there I get goosebumps, it feels strange just reading it.



shake I can't do it and don't know if I ever will be able to.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio… they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end.
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Reply #24 posted 09/03/17 8:07am

rdhull

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Mumio said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

I know I'm going a bit off topic, but is it just me or are there any other people, who couldn't go to PP? I don't maybe in a couple years, but it feels so fresh and everytime I read that someone went there I get goosebumps, it feels strange just reading it.



shake I can't do it and don't know if I ever will be able to.

Seems like a depressing journey. To go there an know he isnt there anymore. Its almost rather be a fantasy Oz Xanadu thats part of purple lore instead of seeing what's no longer vital.

And everytime I scratch my nails down someone else's back I hope you feel it.. WELL CAN YA FEEL IT?!
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Reply #25 posted 09/03/17 10:17am

1Sasha

IIRC it has never been revealed where Freddie Mercury's remains were placed or scattered. There is one cemetary where some fans think he was interred, but no one knows for sure. JFK Jr.'s remains were scattered at sea to prevent any type of issue, including vandalism. Perhaps someday Prince's remains will be removed from PP and interred or scattered somewhere in Minnesota.

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Reply #26 posted 09/03/17 10:33am

Germanegro

I feel it is quite an appropriate place where Prince's urn is now kept, and I am fine with the presentation as-is .

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I did the PP tour and our guide took the utmost care in his presentation of the urn and allowed--nay--requested a moment of silence to allow people to let their thoughts run, offer prayer, show respect, regain composure, etc. I knew what was coming before making my visit, and I did spy the urn well before it was brought to attention. I don't see what could be more appropriate to do beyond a private burial site or posession of the urn in a family home. I think it gives more to the fan, however, especially to those who were unable to see him in real-life or onstage.

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Reply #27 posted 09/03/17 10:57am

kingricefan

I was afraid that a trip to PP would be a sad one, but it was actually a rather uplifting experience for me. Yes, I shed tears while I was waiting in the foyer before our tour even got started and standing beneath the urn, but after that it was more of a cleansing experience and I felt his presence everywhere. I felt his spirit whispering to not be sad and to enjoy what was there as he had enjoyed it himself while he was alive. There will always be a hole in my soul where he and his music had been, but that hole is smaller now and has been filled with joy for what he left us all. I would recommend to any Prince fan to take the trip to PP and experience it for themselves. Each journey will be different but it may help you to overcome your grief somewhat.

rdhull said:

Mumio said:



shake I can't do it and don't know if I ever will be able to.

Seems like a depressing journey. To go there an know he isnt there anymore. Its almost rather be a fantasy Oz Xanadu thats part of purple lore instead of seeing what's no longer vital.

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Reply #28 posted 09/03/17 10:24pm

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Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

I suppose his family think it's a money spinner. Well, no visit for me on principle. I don't believe for a second he's in that shitty thing I just can't believe for a second he'd have asked to be put in such a terrible, non-scale model of PP, looks hideous. Tacky, cheap looking and disrespectful. He deserves a proper headstone, grave, or tomb. Not a freakshow. I think it's disturbing. I suppose the lack of a Will from him brought this ugliness from his family. But that's another story. I believe there probably was a Will. It's ashes are probably in that Urn. sad

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I don't know; as much as people loved Prince I think it would be a nightmare if there was an actual burial site for people to visit. I can just picture some of the craziness that would occur.

if i were to ever write down my life story,
i could truly say with all the fame and glory,
i was just a piece of clay in need of the potter’s hand,
’cause when you whispered in my ear
the words i so now understand
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Reply #29 posted 09/03/17 10:28pm

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rogifan said:

Seahorsie said:

I finally got to go through Paisley Park last month as a birthday trip from my spouse. It was so dramatic to see the place where he lived and created most of his music for all of us. However, I want to make one small suggestion as far as the tour of the premises.

We had just looked at everything in the beautiful atrium, saw his office, some of his guitars & stage outfits. We were allowed to look into the "little kitchen" where some of the meals and snacks were prepared, as well as where he watched t.v. At that moment, I was right by the French doors leading into this kitchen.

The tour guide said, "Look up at the small rendition of Paisley Park, that is where his ashes are kept." I was standing right under it, and I almost jumped. (Like you were walking on someone's grave.) I don't feel like that is the way to present them, it should probably be at the end of the tour, and given more reverence. That is just one person's opinion; what do you all think??

The only reason it wasn’t weird for me is I knew it was there and had prepared myself for it. The tour guide I had also framed it as he’s watching over everyone who comes through. But I can definitely see the argument to having it in a special room where people can privately pay their respects at the end of their tour.

great idea. Didn't he have something called a reflection room at PP? Has that room been converted into something else? If not a think that would be an ideal place.

if i were to ever write down my life story,
i could truly say with all the fame and glory,
i was just a piece of clay in need of the potter’s hand,
’cause when you whispered in my ear
the words i so now understand
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