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Thread started 03/14/18 8:27am

benni

Prince: "People hear the sex in my songs much more than I ever write it"

I hadn't ever read this interview before, and found it fascinating.


https://www.theguardian.c...s-magazine

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Reply #1 posted 03/14/18 8:44am

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Great interview and dang! That episode of TOTP was incredible! Prince, No Doubt, The Spice Girls, etc. Wow!

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Reply #2 posted 03/14/18 8:49am

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Good interview! Thanks for sharing

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Reply #3 posted 03/14/18 8:52am

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I hadn't seen this one, either. Thanks for posting!

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Reply #4 posted 03/14/18 9:16am

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One of the few interviews Prince mentions his son directly. Very honest and open, and a pleasure to read.

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Reply #5 posted 03/14/18 9:37am

benni

RodeoSchro said:

Great interview and dang! That episode of TOTP was incredible! Prince, No Doubt, The Spice Girls, etc. Wow!


It was, wasn't it!? I've watched it a couple of times since I found the interview. 2 years ago, I was searching out all the interviews I could find, but strange that I didn't come across this one until last night.

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Reply #6 posted 03/14/18 9:38am

benni

pinkcashmere23 said:

Good interview! Thanks for sharing


You're welcome!

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Reply #7 posted 03/14/18 9:40am

benni

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One of the few interviews Prince mentions his son directly. Very honest and open, and a pleasure to read.


I really enjoyed it, too. I hadn't read an interview in which he did talk about his son like this. Usually it was the "It's all good" and a change of subject, but to read that he did discuss how traumatic it was for him, he must have trusted this reporter to be that open with them.

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Reply #8 posted 03/14/18 10:41am

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Great interview! That's what I love about the org. I don't have to go looking for much. Wonderful orgers find and share.

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Reply #9 posted 03/14/18 10:47am

Wolfie87

And Ian Wright as a huge fan?!?! eek

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Reply #10 posted 03/14/18 10:53am

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He was always deflecting. The guy was about pure sex.

"My motherfucker's so cool sheep count him."
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Reply #11 posted 03/14/18 12:10pm

luvsexy4all

"my soul is cast iron and not to be dented."

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Reply #12 posted 03/14/18 2:31pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

He was always deflecting. The guy was about pure sex.

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Prince had us all confused; he was always changing his mind. lol

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Reply #13 posted 03/14/18 7:08pm

benni

luvsexy4all said:

"my soul is cast iron and not to be dented."


I loved that quote, too.

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Reply #14 posted 03/14/18 7:17pm

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luvsexy4all said:

"my soul is cast iron and not to be dented."


sounds like a qoute from an unknown song to me. he was always dropping lines from
songs in his interviews or speeches. there are a few in this interview. notablly the one
from 'comeback' and a paraphrased one from 'gold'.

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Reply #15 posted 03/15/18 3:54am

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He talks about 27 being the most important year of anyone’s life, about how he wants to bring together the male and female sides of himself and others, to marry the two genders. This union he signifies with his symbol, which he has adopted as his name.

What happened to him at 27? That would’ve been 1985. He was beginning the Lovesexy Tour in August of that year.

The secret of how to master happiness, according to Prince, is to learn to look at things positively, to rid oneself of negativity and to learn from one’s mistakes.
“...ultimately it was my choice to sign the record deal. I was tempted by the carrot dangled in front of me, the carrot I call my pink Cadillac. Now that pink Cadillac was very appealing, but it was going down the wrong road.”


“I wasn’t a happy person then. It was around the time of Lovesexy and that was not a good time. I nearly lost it at that time.”
So what did make him so unhappy? His body suddenly stiffens. “That’s not important now,” he snaps, retreating on his confession. Then, just as quickly his voice softens. “What does matter is that I am happy now.”


What did happen?

I think P at the time of this interview was happier. And still seeking more happiness.
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Reply #16 posted 03/15/18 4:33am

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There's no them...there's only us...
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Reply #17 posted 03/15/18 6:19am

jdcxc

What was so controversial and needed to be originally edited?
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Reply #18 posted 03/15/18 6:45am

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I've always agreed with that, even since the 80s

I think it is his persona and being such a visual exotic scene lends for that.
Even 'spiritual' songs come off sexual

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Reply #19 posted 03/15/18 6:54am

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jdcxc said:

What was so controversial and needed to be originally edited?

It might be that Prince seems to directly answer questions about his son. He says the usual things he did at the time, but the way the article is written, it seems that the interviewer asked directly, and Prince answered directly about the topic.

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Reply #20 posted 03/15/18 7:17am

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What happened to him at 27? That would’ve been 1985. He was beginning the Lovesexy Tour in August of that year.

Nope. Lovesexy tour began mid 1988.

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Reply #21 posted 03/15/18 11:54am

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anangellooksdown said:

He talks about 27 being the most important year of anyone’s life, about how he wants to bring together the male and female sides of himself and others, to marry the two genders. This union he signifies with his symbol, which he has adopted as his name. What happened to him at 27? That would’ve been 1985. He was beginning the Lovesexy Tour in August of that year. The secret of how to master happiness, according to Prince, is to learn to look at things positively, to rid oneself of negativity and to learn from one’s mistakes. “...ultimately it was my choice to sign the record deal. I was tempted by the carrot dangled in front of me, the carrot I call my pink Cadillac. Now that pink Cadillac was very appealing, but it was going down the wrong road.” “I wasn’t a happy person then. It was around the time of Lovesexy and that was not a good time. I nearly lost it at that time.” So what did make him so unhappy? His body suddenly stiffens. “That’s not important now,” he snaps, retreating on his confession. Then, just as quickly his voice softens. “What does matter is that I am happy now.” What did happen? I think P at the time of this interview was happier. And still seeking more happiness.

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I wonder what he was going through around that time? That was the period of "Around the World".

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #22 posted 03/15/18 12:15pm

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cloveringold85 said:

anangellooksdown said:

He talks about 27 being the most important year of anyone’s life, about how he wants to bring together the male and female sides of himself and others, to marry the two genders. This union he signifies with his symbol, which he has adopted as his name. What happened to him at 27? That would’ve been 1985. He was beginning the Lovesexy Tour in August of that year. The secret of how to master happiness, according to Prince, is to learn to look at things positively, to rid oneself of negativity and to learn from one’s mistakes. “...ultimately it was my choice to sign the record deal. I was tempted by the carrot dangled in front of me, the carrot I call my pink Cadillac. Now that pink Cadillac was very appealing, but it was going down the wrong road.” “I wasn’t a happy person then. It was around the time of Lovesexy and that was not a good time. I nearly lost it at that time.” So what did make him so unhappy? His body suddenly stiffens. “That’s not important now,” he snaps, retreating on his confession. Then, just as quickly his voice softens. “What does matter is that I am happy now.” What did happen? I think P at the time of this interview was happier. And still seeking more happiness.

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I wonder what he was going through around that time? That was the period of "Around the World".

That is the period the 1983-1986 period he said was Community that he needed community (he said this in a 1998 interview) this is also the period where his father was very much a part of his life and his camp.

1985 that period where he is 'coming home from taking over the world with Purple Rain' having achieved the thing he was working toward Super Stardom.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
Tell me, what's the m
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Reply #23 posted 03/15/18 1:08pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



cloveringold85 said:




anangellooksdown said:


He talks about 27 being the most important year of anyone’s life, about how he wants to bring together the male and female sides of himself and others, to marry the two genders. This union he signifies with his symbol, which he has adopted as his name. What happened to him at 27? That would’ve been 1985. He was beginning the Lovesexy Tour in August of that year. The secret of how to master happiness, according to Prince, is to learn to look at things positively, to rid oneself of negativity and to learn from one’s mistakes. “...ultimately it was my choice to sign the record deal. I was tempted by the carrot dangled in front of me, the carrot I call my pink Cadillac. Now that pink Cadillac was very appealing, but it was going down the wrong road.” “I wasn’t a happy person then. It was around the time of Lovesexy and that was not a good time. I nearly lost it at that time.” So what did make him so unhappy? His body suddenly stiffens. “That’s not important now,” he snaps, retreating on his confession. Then, just as quickly his voice softens. “What does matter is that I am happy now.” What did happen? I think P at the time of this interview was happier. And still seeking more happiness.

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I wonder what he was going through around that time? That was the period of "Around the World".





That is the period the 1983-1986 period he said was Community that he needed community (he said this in a 1998 interview) this is also the period where his father was very much a part of his life and his camp.


1985 that period where he is 'coming home from taking over the world with Purple Rain' having achieved the thing he was working toward Super Stardom.





Oh. So he was craving community? And also his Dad was around.
And he was dealing with this new superstardom. Probably trying to find who he could trust and who he was and where he was going.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
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Reply #24 posted 03/15/18 1:13pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I wonder what he was going through around that time? That was the period of "Around the World".

That is the period the 1983-1986 period he said was Community that he needed community (he said this in a 1998 interview) this is also the period where his father was very much a part of his life and his camp.

1985 that period where he is 'coming home from taking over the world with Purple Rain' having achieved the thing he was working toward Super Stardom.

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Yes, that was a big turning-point in his career.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #25 posted 03/17/18 10:01am

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anangellooksdown said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

That is the period the 1983-1986 period he said was Community that he needed community (he said this in a 1998 interview) this is also the period where his father was very much a part of his life and his camp.

1985 that period where he is 'coming home from taking over the world with Purple Rain' having achieved the thing he was working toward Super Stardom.

Oh. So he was craving community? And also his Dad was around. And he was dealing with this new superstardom. Probably trying to find who he could trust and who he was and where he was going.

Yes.
I think some of it could be summed up in his reaction to the crowd when the limo pulled up to the Purple Rain premiere. And expressed in Pop Life.

A government of love and music boundless in its unifying power
A nation of alms, the production, sharing ideas, a shower of flowers

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A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence

What's the matter with your life
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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #26 posted 03/17/18 4:51pm

Strive

This interview is a little sadder once you read Mayte's book and see that this is just a facade introduced by Larry Graham. He was the one pushing Prince to the idea that absolute faith would make things turn out alright and that unshakable faith in Christ would be rewarded. The last part of the interview kinda confirms that when he goes "I think, yes, I know I'm happy. I have all I need."

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Reply #27 posted 03/18/18 8:28pm

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Wolfie87 said:

And Ian Wright as a huge fan?!?! eek

This GB, is why I love you!

Yes i remember hearing that Ian Wright played Prince in the changing room before some Arsenal matches lol

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Reply #28 posted 03/18/18 9:10pm

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I agree. He tried so hard to rise above his loss but he avoided truely facing the loss. However, I would not call it a facade. He never lies about his son dying. I think he sincerely thought he could will himself into happiness and spiritual re-unification with the soul of his dead son. (the interviewer points out that he said he was happy about 30 times in the interview--probably not just to protect his privacy but to also convince himself.)He was deluded. For a while, it probably did get him through, but unfortunately, its like throwing a bandaid on a seeping wound while avoiding a doctor's examination of the injury.--it will stop the bleeding for a little while but eventually you will bleed through regardless and are ill-equipped to fix it.. Healing means dealing directly with the problem. I don't think thatparticular spiritual belief would have been bad had he first gone through the painful but essential process of understanding/facing the psychological devastation of the loss and getting the support and he and his wife truely needed. Spirituality to deal with loss is not necessarily a bad thing but it cant substitute for real psychological and theraputic support. I wonder where P's parents were through this devastating moment in his life.

Strive said:

This interview is a little sadder once you read Mayte's book and see that this is just a facade introduced by Larry Graham. He was the one pushing Prince to the idea that absolute faith would make things turn out alright and that unshakable faith in Christ would be rewarded. The last part of the interview kinda confirms that when he goes "I think, yes, I know I'm happy. I have all I need."

[Edited 3/18/18 21:13pm]

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Reply #29 posted 03/19/18 4:27am

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This interview was never published until 04/24/2016 (after Prince's death). I suspect that is why the article refers to him as Prince instead of The Artist or TAFKAP or prince. Source: https://www.theguardian.c...-magazine.
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Interview
Prince: ‘People hear the sex in my songs much more than I ever write it’
By Susie Boone
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On 27 February 1997, Prince granted a rare interview to the deputy editor of Top of the Pops magazine before appearing on the show. However, the finished article was deemed too candid to print in full. The unexpurgated version is published here for the first time
Sun 24 Apr 2016 04.00 EDTLast modified on Fri 1 Dec 2017 23.32 EST
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