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Reply #60 posted 11/03/18 5:42pm

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To throw out an obscure suggestion I've never seen mentioned here: Gansevoort Hotel, nyc, 2008. It was a tiny venue, soundboard recording. The audio is so clear it's like he's in the room with you.

Not only would I love to have it in pristine condition, I think it's exactly the kind of live show that can turn a casual fan into a hardcore fan.
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My point exactly. Thank you. I dont see Cora, 3rd Eye and them able to do a Beautiful Night aftershow style etc etc

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Right! The late 80's after shows are some of the best. He was young, energetic, extremely prolific and passionate about the music. He was in hard core constant creative mode and was still far from settling back into his "icon" status at concerts. Even the 93-95 period - both concerts and after shows were so good, because he was pissed off and rebelling against WB and their "pop star" process. I love those after shows too. He would do, say and play anything he wanted. The music still had that raw, biting sound to it.

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How can you really compare?? His music, style, and demeanor were different in just about every 4 year span. He constantly changed. You just can't compare his 80's live shows to the 90's or 2000's. Everybody has their favorites, but he and his music/style were different. Even when he played his 80's classics in later years it was a different sound - it was more polished instead of "raw". It was good but not the same.

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I agree with all of OF4S's choices plus Le New Morning 1987 and LoveSexy Tent Show...

I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

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Reply #63 posted 11/03/18 6:56pm

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donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said: I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

There was nothing liike seeing Prince live with new material. He was excited and so were we. I'd take those shows over any later years shows post 95, except maybe P&AM.

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Reply #64 posted 11/03/18 6:58pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

There was nothing liike seeing Prince live with new material. He was excited and so were we. I'd take those shows over any later years shows post 95, except maybe P&AM.

and add 2001 ONA TRC aftershows.

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Reply #65 posted 11/03/18 7:16pm

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To throw out an obscure suggestion I've never seen mentioned here: Gansevoort Hotel, nyc, 2008. It was a tiny venue, soundboard recording. The audio is so clear it's like he's in the room with you. Not only would I love to have it in pristine condition, I think it's exactly the kind of live show that can turn a casual fan into a hardcore fan.

There's a SDB of this?? eek

Was it released on any bootleg with a proper title?

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Reply #66 posted 11/04/18 2:21am

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rdhull said:



motherfunka said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)





There was nothing liike seeing Prince live with new material. He was excited and so were we. I'd take those shows over any later years shows post 95, except maybe P&AM.



and add 2001 ONA TRC aftershows.



Yes, and I'd also add some of the 2013/early 2014 shows with 3EG.
I'm not saying they were one of his great bands but he seemed excited playing more new material than he had for a while. And some of the older stuff like Something In The Water sounded fresh.
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I saw him twice in Feb 2014 in Manchester and he was electrifying
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Reply #67 posted 11/04/18 6:27am

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rdhull said:

and add 2001 ONA TRC aftershows.

Yes, and I'd also add some of the 2013/early 2014 shows with 3EG. I'm not saying they were one of his great bands but he seemed excited playing more new material than he had for a while. And some of the older stuff like Something In The Water sounded fresh. . I saw him twice in Feb 2014 in Manchester and he was electrifying

I'm sure. And they killed the reworking of Lets Go Crazy (killed meaning did 'good').

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Reply #68 posted 11/04/18 7:11am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

donnyenglish said:

violetcrush said: I think you can objectively compare his live shows. The 80’s were all very tight well rehearsed shows. SOTT and Lovesexy were great tours and there were some great aftershows in 1988. But, from 2009-2013 there was a lot of variation, a lot of great aftershows, a lot of one off unique shows and a lot of hits for casual fans. He looked great, his bands were tight and they could play everything.

The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

Another thought to this 80's vs 2000's comparison with the live shows - a great example is the song Bambi. To me, the '82 live performance at 1st Avenue is the best over any of the others - even the 1993 NPG Trio version. Prince is talking to the crowd "now listen, this is not a concert, this is a dance. If you can dance to this next song you're a better man than me". Then someone must have yelled out "thank you for coming", because then Prince says, "I haven't come yet baby!" The whole vibe is great - totally improvised, raw and fresh. Envious of the people who were there!!

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Reply #69 posted 11/04/18 7:43am

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LovePaisley said:

To throw out an obscure suggestion I've never seen mentioned here: Gansevoort Hotel, nyc, 2008. It was a tiny venue, soundboard recording. The audio is so clear it's like he's in the room with you.

Not only would I love to have it in pristine condition, I think it's exactly the kind of live show that can turn a casual fan into a hardcore fan.

Yes I would love that! Though there is one song on YouTube:

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Reply #70 posted 11/04/18 7:55am

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dodger said:

rdhull said:



motherfunka said:




OldFriends4Sale said:




The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)





There was nothing liike seeing Prince live with new material. He was excited and so were we. I'd take those shows over any later years shows post 95, except maybe P&AM.



and add 2001 ONA TRC aftershows.



Yes, and I'd also add some of the 2013/early 2014 shows with 3EG.
I'm not saying they were one of his great bands but he seemed excited playing more new material than he had for a while. And some of the older stuff like Something In The Water sounded fresh.
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I saw him twice in Feb 2014 in Manchester and he was electrifying

I loved Something In The Water with 3EG. Also I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man, She’s Always In My Hair And Endorphinmachine. Even the slowed down version of Let’s Go Crazy with Edgar Winter Group’s Frankenstein in the middle was amazing.

I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man is one of my favorite songs and I love every way he performed it. I love the fast album version, I love the acoustic version, the slowed down rock version with 3EG and the versions he did on the P&M shows.
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Reply #71 posted 11/04/18 7:58am

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Yes, and I'd also add some of the 2013/early 2014 shows with 3EG. I'm not saying they were one of his great bands but he seemed excited playing more new material than he had for a while. And some of the older stuff like Something In The Water sounded fresh. . I saw him twice in Feb 2014 in Manchester and he was electrifying
I loved Something In The Water with 3EG. Also I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man, She’s Always In My Hair And Endorphinmachine. Even the slowed down version of Let’s Go Crazy with Edgar Winter Group’s Frankenstein in the middle was amazing. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man is one of my favorite songs and I love every way he performed it. I love the fast album version, I love the acoustic version, the slowed down rock version with 3EG and the versions he did on the P&M shows.

He slowed ICNTTPOYM first at the 2001 celebrations. I was floored when I heard it.

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Reply #73 posted 11/04/18 9:24am

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rdhull said:



rogifan said:


dodger said:
Yes, and I'd also add some of the 2013/early 2014 shows with 3EG. I'm not saying they were one of his great bands but he seemed excited playing more new material than he had for a while. And some of the older stuff like Something In The Water sounded fresh. . I saw him twice in Feb 2014 in Manchester and he was electrifying

I loved Something In The Water with 3EG. Also I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man, She’s Always In My Hair And Endorphinmachine. Even the slowed down version of Let’s Go Crazy with Edgar Winter Group’s Frankenstein in the middle was amazing. I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man is one of my favorite songs and I love every way he performed it. I love the fast album version, I love the acoustic version, the slowed down rock version with 3EG and the versions he did on the P&M shows.

He slowed ICNTTPOYM first at the 2001 celebrations. I was floored when I heard it.



The 2002 Celebration version that segues into Ain’t No Sunshine is the business
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violetcrush said:

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The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

Another thought to this 80's vs 2000's comparison with the live shows - a great example is the song Bambi. To me, the '82 live performance at 1st Avenue is the best over any of the others - even the 1993 NPG Trio version. Prince is talking to the crowd "now listen, this is not a concert, this is a dance. If you can dance to this next song you're a better man than me". Then someone must have yelled out "thank you for coming", because then Prince says, "I haven't come yet baby!" The whole vibe is great - totally improvised, raw and fresh. Envious of the people who were there!!

Yes!!! lol I loved that kind of stuff. it was naughty but not raunchy.

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Reply #75 posted 11/04/18 9:41am

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He slowed ICNTTPOYM first at the 2001 celebrations. I was floored when I heard it.

The 2002 Celebration version that segues into Ain’t No Sunshine is the business

Yes, 2002, not 2001, my mistake.

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Reply #76 posted 11/04/18 9:43am

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Paisley P&M shows with small photo book and Montreux 2009 and 2013.

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Reply #77 posted 11/05/18 5:25pm

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databank said:



LovePaisley said:


To throw out an obscure suggestion I've never seen mentioned here: Gansevoort Hotel, nyc, 2008. It was a tiny venue, soundboard recording. The audio is so clear it's like he's in the room with you. Not only would I love to have it in pristine condition, I think it's exactly the kind of live show that can turn a casual fan into a hardcore fan.

There's a SDB of this?? eek


Was it released on any bootleg with a proper title?



Sorry, I don't know what an SBD is. Soundboard, I assume? If so, then probably yes. All I know is, it's the clearest boot I've ever heard. No telltale rustle of clothing, normal audience noise. So I'm assuming soundboard because of the quality. It was up on mixcloud when I listened to it, though I didn't download anything.
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Reply #78 posted 11/05/18 7:02pm

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Reply #79 posted 11/05/18 8:09pm

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LovePaisley said:

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There's a SDB of this?? eek

Was it released on any bootleg with a proper title?

Sorry, I don't know what an SBD is. Soundboard, I assume? If so, then probably yes. All I know is, it's the clearest boot I've ever heard. No telltale rustle of clothing, normal audience noise. So I'm assuming soundboard because of the quality. It was up on mixcloud when I listened to it, though I didn't download anything.

I found it thx.

It's an audience recording not SDB, it's even written on the Mixcloud post. I fail to see how it could be the clearest boot you've ever heard unless you've never heard a SBD (soundboard indeed).

I'll download it though, if it's as remarkable a show as you say it's certainly worth a listen smile

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Reply #80 posted 11/06/18 5:44am

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^ similar set and band to the Avalon 2009 show, and surrounded by shows at 77 Beverly Park that we have no recordings of if anyone from the estate is listening razz
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Reply #81 posted 11/06/18 6:15am

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^ similar set and band to the Avalon 2009 show, and surrounded by shows at 77 Beverly Park that we have no recordings of if anyone from the estate is listening razz

Don't forget any recordings of live shows at the 3121 Antelo Rd mansion, and Boozer's mansion at 1235 Sierra Alta Way in LA....

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Reply #82 posted 11/06/18 10:38am

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April 28th 2007 the last night at the Rio in Las Vegas was recorded. There were 2 cameras one on stage and the other on my right shoulder. I was irritated by the camera man puting the camera on my sholder, but kept telling myself it will be worth it when i get to see the video. On the way home on the plane, I was like what the hell, I was trying to stay positive then i realized it may never see the light of day. So far i was right still would love to see it. I am trapped in that monemt of time it was my best concert ever. I got to touch Prince's bass while he was playing it!

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Reply #83 posted 11/07/18 2:58pm

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databank said:



LovePaisley said:


databank said:


There's a SDB of this?? eek


Was it released on any bootleg with a proper title?



Sorry, I don't know what an SBD is. Soundboard, I assume? If so, then probably yes. All I know is, it's the clearest boot I've ever heard. No telltale rustle of clothing, normal audience noise. So I'm assuming soundboard because of the quality. It was up on mixcloud when I listened to it, though I didn't download anything.

I found it thx.


It's an audience recording not SDB, it's even written on the Mixcloud post. I fail to see how it could be the clearest boot you've ever heard unless you've never heard a SBD (soundboard indeed).


I'll download it though, if it's as remarkable a show as you say it's certainly worth a listen smile



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Reply #84 posted 11/15/18 3:08pm

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violetcrush said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The comparisons of earlier times vs latter will always be a bit off balance, in that people get better and more skilled in their performing or should. I saw Glady's Knight a few years ago and it just seemed effortless. But her earliest show probably didn't seem effortless. But by 2010 she should be as an artist. Same with Prince. I don't think think though that the renditions of songs were always great. Some shows felt to much like a run through and Let's Go Crazy always never had the same punch that it did in 1984(for example)

Another thought to this 80's vs 2000's comparison with the live shows - a great example is the song Bambi. To me, the '82 live performance at 1st Avenue is the best over any of the others - even the 1993 NPG Trio version. Prince is talking to the crowd "now listen, this is not a concert, this is a dance. If you can dance to this next song you're a better man than me". Then someone must have yelled out "thank you for coming", because then Prince says, "I haven't come yet baby!" The whole vibe is great - totally improvised, raw and fresh. Envious of the people who were there!!

I found the '82 live of Bambi. If only there were a video too....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2aAARRcyGk

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Actually, this whole show would be a great release. The Time and Sue Ann Carwell performed too...

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http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=08_March_1982

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violetcrush said:

violetcrush said:

Another thought to this 80's vs 2000's comparison with the live shows - a great example is the song Bambi. To me, the '82 live performance at 1st Avenue is the best over any of the others - even the 1993 NPG Trio version. Prince is talking to the crowd "now listen, this is not a concert, this is a dance. If you can dance to this next song you're a better man than me". Then someone must have yelled out "thank you for coming", because then Prince says, "I haven't come yet baby!" The whole vibe is great - totally improvised, raw and fresh. Envious of the people who were there!!

I found the '82 live of Bambi. If only there were a video too....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2aAARRcyGk

That is a show that needs to be released badly

March 8 1982 First Avenue

Image may contain: 2 people, people on stage, shoes and indoor

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OldFriends4Sale said:

violetcrush said:

I found the '82 live of Bambi. If only there were a video too....

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2aAARRcyGk

That is a show that needs to be released badly

March 8 1982 First Avenue

Image may contain: 2 people, people on stage, shoes and indoor

Yes!!!! Is this pic actually from that show?? I love when Prince yells "turn it up!!!" during Bambi smile

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^^ Yes it is from the show

Image may contain: one or more people

1.Bambi
2.All The Critics Love U In New York
3.When You Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 The Beat -the Time w/SueAnn Carwell
9.The Stick TheTime
19.Party UP w/Morris Day on drums

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^^ Yes it is from the show

Image may contain: one or more people

1.Bambi
2.All The Critics Love U In New York
3.When You Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 The Beat -the Time w/SueAnn Carwell
9.The Stick TheTime
19.Party UP w/Morris Day on drums

OMG look at him in that outfit. Dez too. They HAVE to release this video and recording. Is this pic from Allan's book too?

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OldFriends4Sale said:

^^ Yes it is from the show

Image may contain: one or more people

1.Bambi
2.All The Critics Love U In New York
3.When You Were Mine
4.Sexy Dancer
5.Still Waiting
6.Head
7.Sexuality
8.Dance 2 The Beat -the Time w/SueAnn Carwell
9.The Stick TheTime
19.Party UP w/Morris Day on drums

OMG look at him in that outfit. Dez too. They HAVE to release this video and recording. Is this pic from Allan's book too?

No it's not from the book. I have no doubt Allen has more from the book though. I believe there was someone else there taking pictures.

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