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Reply #60 posted 11/05/18 9:07am

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violetcrush said:

rdhull said:

Looks like he was meant to come out of the shadows and do that solo since he was 'bathed' in it.An just because he wasn't "billed as featured soloist" (who is? nobody is ever billed as that lol) And lets not forget, it was also his night s he was inducted that night.

It's very easy for the Production Director to quickly call out a spotlight on stage. The production crew are trained to handle any sudden changes/adjustments needed at any given time. They can change lighting when necessary.

really?

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Reply #61 posted 11/05/18 9:11am

minnesoundlvr

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FWIW, this performance is what Pulled me back in. I was literally done and bored with the whole purple scene online and off prior to this performance. 2001-2004 was zzz for me and I felt it was over. Watching the Hall Of Fame show, I felt the regular performance of his hits that he did earlier in the show was "okay" and that having those dip shits Outkast as speakers on his induction (that disrespectuful "off the dome" boolshet) left me wanting. Thank God Alicia got me hyped and did him right with HER introduction. That was the best...until this surprise guitar performance. I literally got out of me seat and had teared the fuck up at what I had just watched. I wanted to call everybody I knew to ask if they had just witnessed what I did. It was so breathtaking (He wouldn't surprise me with such greatness again until the PR performance in the opening Musicology Show in L.A. and the Superbowl performance a few years later). I've rarely rewatched the perforamnce in all these years becasue I want to keep the first experience in my memory. For some reason, I feel that watching and re-waching certain things makes everything all to familiar and the experience reduces its charm or exclusive specialness if that makes sense. In all these years, Ive read how the vidoes of it all have different sounds, aspects to which speaker his guitar comes through, overdubbed etc etc. Too bad that all these so called dubious aspects to what was done that night has come into play at times but I dont give a fuck. I know what I saw that night and nothing from any other band or performer has come close to that and Ill always remeber THAT.

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We are in agreement about how the performance made us feel. I did not watch it live, but I saw it sometime thereafter on social media. As one who had not kept up with Prince over the years, I was amazed.

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Reply #62 posted 11/05/18 9:12am

violetcrush

rdhull said:

violetcrush said:

It's very easy for the Production Director to quickly call out a spotlight on stage. The production crew are trained to handle any sudden changes/adjustments needed at any given time. They can change lighting when necessary.

really?

I believe so , yes. At least, from what I remember during my TV Production classes in college. I don't think the Director is only calling camera changes - he can call for lighting changes as well. I could be wrong though...

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Reply #63 posted 11/05/18 1:34pm

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jdcxc said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



He opened the show!
He was inducted and was THE main event for that year’s show.

First year eligible by god he was going to headline the RR Hall of Fame that Year.

Prince has NEVER been anything but one of the biggest badasses in rock. He’s been right up there with The Beatles and MJ since very early in his career and by the time of the show didn’t need to prove anything to anyone. HE WANTED TO.
He has always gave it his all even if it was just an after show with a handful of people. That’s the recurring thing his protege’s and band mates have said about him. To give it your all no matter what.
[Edited 11/4/18 19:18pm]


Good points.

What is also lost on his induction is that he was still a vital creative artist...still releasing interesting music, collaborating with others, challenging the industry and creating amazing live performances. So many of the inductees are creatively spent, tired, retired or dead.


He was having a major renaissance as a live performer. There are so many mind blowing performances during this time and throughout the rest of his life. Seeing a live Prince show had always been a MUST whenever he was playing up until the the very end. He could announce the shows on a day’s notice or less and still sell out!
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Reply #64 posted 11/05/18 3:59pm

rogifan

What reason would Tom Petty have to lie about this performance? confused
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Reply #65 posted 11/05/18 5:19pm

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rogifan said:

What reason would Tom Petty have to lie about this performance? confused

To appear more magnanimous after Prince's recent death (at the time) is my guess.

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Reply #66 posted 11/05/18 8:20pm

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minnesoundlvr said:

rdhull said:

quoted from endorphinz:
Talk about revisionist history...when it was happening Dhani was smiling like a school girl with a crush before Prince even played a note of his solo, that's how excited he was to hear Prince play. He almost never stopped smiling throughout the performance, and afterwards was gushing over Prince's solo so much that he said he wanted to hug him. Tom Petty said he kept giving Prince signals to keep it going because he knew something special was happening on stage (Prince keeps looking to Petty to take his cues as to whether to wrap it up or not). Before Prince's solo not a single person was standing up...by the end of his solo not a single person was sitting down. Dhani praised it to the hilt at the time. Now he's saying it was gratuitous and that he was a "buffer" between Petty and Prince? WTF?

Exactly. Revisionist emotions from Dhani all of a sudden. gtfoohwtbs

I think Tom Petty's account mentioned above is also revisionist history. I don't think he was happy at all when Prince dropped the bomb on all of them on that stage. I also think Dhani was only repeating what he had heard Petty, his mentor, say.

And I don't think Prince was looking at Petty for cues. I think Mr. Nelson was just being petty, no pun intended, and laughing in their faces because he knew that he had snookered them. And stole the show. Just look at the smirk on his face after he leaned back into the audience and his stage hand pushed him back up. He knew exactly what he was doing. They had tried to limit his time in rehearsals, but he had the last laugh.

I also wonder about the lighting that night. Prince was in the shadows for the first half of the performance and then he magically steps to the front of the stage and a spotlight bathed him. And, incredibly, his solo lasted for the final two and a half minutes of the total 6:15. Had he been billed as the featured soloist? I think not.

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OMG minnesoundlvr u spoke the truth here. I totally agree with everything u said. I could not have said it better lol thumbs up! I remember reading after that performance how people were trying 2 get at Dhani and talk 2 him but he was 2 busy looking and asking people where was Prince so he could give him a hug. Like others have already mentioned, he never would have made those comments if Prince were alive.

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Reply #67 posted 11/06/18 8:16am

rogifan

peggyon said:



rogifan said:


What reason would Tom Petty have to lie about this performance? confused



To appear more magnanimous after Prince's recent death (at the time) is my guess.


I’m not following why Petty would’ve had an issue with the performance. Just watch it and you can see where Petty is encouraging Prince to really let it rip during the solo.
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Reply #68 posted 11/06/18 8:30am

peggyon

rogifan said:

peggyon said:

To appear more magnanimous after Prince's recent death (at the time) is my guess.

I’m not following why Petty would’ve had an issue with the performance. Just watch it and you can see where Petty is encouraging Prince to really let it rip during the solo.

Petty seems to be subtly smirking(not happily IMO) when Prince did his "fall off the stage" move, I think.

Perhaps, it was that plus the guitar toss, and

Cee Lo said that Prince felt Petty did not care for him and that there was some push-back behind the scenes re: George's wife wanting only those who knew George to participate in the tribute.

It was the producer who wanted Prince to solo. My guess is back-stage subltle shade.

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Reply #69 posted 11/06/18 9:07am

purplefam99

peggyon said:



rogifan said:


peggyon said:




To appear more magnanimous after Prince's recent death (at the time) is my guess.



I’m not following why Petty would’ve had an issue with the performance. Just watch it and you can see where Petty is encouraging Prince to really let it rip during the solo.




Petty seems to be subtly smirking(not happily IMO) when Prince did his "fall off the stage" move, I think.


Perhaps, it was that plus the guitar toss, and


Cee Lo said that Prince felt Petty did not care for him and that there was some push-back behind the scenes re: George's wife wanting only those who knew George to participate in the tribute.


It was the producer who wanted Prince to solo. My guess is back-stage subltle shade.





That is what I also read from watching the clip. I think Petty
Was acting as the lead performer (singer) and wanted to be
Frontman on duty that night. If that face was pleasant then that must have been
His resting pleasant face. Prince made it a tribute he got down as one should when honoring someone, esp the dead. The singers at the Chaka tribute got down
And unloaded their pipes and Chaka is alive. No need for P to hold back at a tribute for the dead, he brought it down and the dead were pleased!!! Imo
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Reply #70 posted 11/06/18 2:05pm

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minnesoundlvr said:

Afshin Shahidi released this new image today on his Facebook.

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P already for the Stage in that Black at the Sound Check!! Imagine seeing P up there in jeans! haha biggrin razz lol

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Reply #71 posted 11/06/18 2:23pm

rogifan

peggyon said:



rogifan said:


peggyon said:




To appear more magnanimous after Prince's recent death (at the time) is my guess.



I’m not following why Petty would’ve had an issue with the performance. Just watch it and you can see where Petty is encouraging Prince to really let it rip during the solo.




Petty seems to be subtly smirking(not happily IMO) when Prince did his "fall off the stage" move, I think.


Perhaps, it was that plus the guitar toss, and


Cee Lo said that Prince felt Petty did not care for him and that there was some push-back behind the scenes re: George's wife wanting only those who knew George to participate in the tribute.


It was the producer who wanted Prince to solo. My guess is back-stage subltle shade.




I think you’re reading way to much into it. I’ll choose to believe Petty meant what he said in that NY Times article because there isn’t good enough evidence to suggest otherwise.
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Reply #72 posted 11/06/18 7:41pm

peggyon

rogifan said:

peggyon said:

Petty seems to be subtly smirking(not happily IMO) when Prince did his "fall off the stage" move, I think.

Perhaps, it was that plus the guitar toss, and

Cee Lo said that Prince felt Petty did not care for him and that there was some push-back behind the scenes re: George's wife wanting only those who knew George to participate in the tribute.

It was the producer who wanted Prince to solo. My guess is back-stage subltle shade.

I think you’re reading way to much into it. I’ll choose to believe Petty meant what he said in that NY Times article because there isn’t good enough evidence to suggest otherwise.

To each their own

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Reply #73 posted 11/06/18 9:16pm

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peggyon said:

rogifan said:

peggyon said: I’m not following why Petty would’ve had an issue with the performance. Just watch it and you can see where Petty is encouraging Prince to really let it rip during the solo.

Petty seems to be subtly smirking(not happily IMO) when Prince did his "fall off the stage" move, I think.

Perhaps, it was that plus the guitar toss, and

Cee Lo said that Prince felt Petty did not care for him and that there was some push-back behind the scenes re: George's wife wanting only those who knew George to participate in the tribute.

It was the producer who wanted Prince to solo. My guess is back-stage subltle shade.



I agree with you Peggy.

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Reply #74 posted 11/07/18 12:49am

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When I was a the RnRHOF doing research, I pulled up some of the rehearsal video. They didn't have this number in rehearsal catalogued (I suspect it might not have been filmed, or it might purposely not have been archived) , but they had the rehearsal/sound check of Prince's other performance. It was amazing because the level of the musicianship was great, and if you didn't know Prince's performance persona, you'd think it was great. But it was clearly a little toned-down for rehearsal (or not yet amped up for performance). There was a point at which he was staring off at something in the hall. I was just amazed at how good a "not on" Prince was. I never saw him live, BTW.

And in the video, staff were running around preparing the room for the evening - I wondered how cool a shift that must have been for people whose work is so behind-the-scenes to get a full-on Prince concert as a reward for some of the thankless work.

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Reply #75 posted 11/07/18 9:42am

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When I was a the RnRHOF doing research, I pulled up some of the rehearsal video. They didn't have this number in rehearsal catalogued (I suspect it might not have been filmed, or it might purposely not have been archived) , but they had the rehearsal/sound check of Prince's other performance. It was amazing because the level of the musicianship was great, and if you didn't know Prince's performance persona, you'd think it was great. But it was clearly a little toned-down for rehearsal (or not yet amped up for performance). There was a point at which he was staring off at something in the hall. I was just amazed at how good a "not on" Prince was. I never saw him live, BTW.

And in the video, staff were running around preparing the room for the evening - I wondered how cool a shift that must have been for people whose work is so behind-the-scenes to get a full-on Prince concert as a reward for some of the thankless work.

i think i would prefer this view always!!!!!

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Reply #76 posted 11/07/18 9:47am

purplefam99

there is a photo of him leaving RNRHOF sound check, he is in the street and very comtemplative

to me. when i first saw the pic i thought wow he is really at mental study wonder what was going on in his mind. i think Afshin

took the pic. i can't post pics sorry.

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Reply #77 posted 11/07/18 9:21pm

minnesoundlvr

purplefam99 said:

there is a photo of him leaving RNRHOF sound check, he is in the street and very comtemplative

to me. when i first saw the pic i thought wow he is really at mental study wonder what was going on in his mind. i think Afshin

took the pic. i can't post pics sorry.

I love that photo.

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Reply #78 posted 11/08/18 7:46am

purplefam99

minnesoundlvr said:

purplefam99 said:

there is a photo of him leaving RNRHOF sound check, he is in the street and very comtemplative

to me. when i first saw the pic i thought wow he is really at mental study wonder what was going on in his mind. i think Afshin

took the pic. i can't post pics sorry.

I love that photo.

me to minnesoundlvr!!!!!!!

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Reply #79 posted 11/08/18 1:43pm

violetcrush

purplefam99 said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I love that photo.

me to minnesoundlvr!!!!!!!

purplefam99 - can you post the pic here? Don't know if I've seen that one...

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Reply #80 posted 11/08/18 1:59pm

purplefam99

violetcrush said:

purplefam99 said:

me to minnesoundlvr!!!!!!!

purplefam99 - can you post the pic here? Don't know if I've seen that one...

violet, i can't post pics, it won't work for me. Can anyone else post the pic

that Afshid took of prince with his guitar and he is leaving RNRHOF sound check. he is all

in black and wearing black turtle neck and his gaze is cast down and seems to be on a back street

that isn't populated.

sorry violet.

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Reply #81 posted 11/08/18 2:01pm

purplefam99

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/11/22/03-prince-rocknroll-hof_wide-5771eb11b03569ed29c02fc5201e4adba5024bc1.jpg?s=1400

maybe this will work violet. zoom in on his face if you can.

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Reply #82 posted 11/08/18 2:14pm

violetcrush

purplefam99 said:

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/11/22/03-prince-rocknroll-hof_wide-5771eb11b03569ed29c02fc5201e4adba5024bc1.jpg?s=1400

maybe this will work violet. zoom in on his face if you can.

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Thanks, What a fantastic picture!!!!!

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Reply #83 posted 11/08/18 2:29pm

purplefam99

violetcrush said:

purplefam99 said:

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2017/11/22/03-prince-rocknroll-hof_wide-5771eb11b03569ed29c02fc5201e4adba5024bc1.jpg?s=1400

maybe this will work violet. zoom in on his face if you can.

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Thanks, What a fantastic picture!!!!!

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it is!!! your welcome and thank you!

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Reply #84 posted 11/08/18 4:45pm

violetcrush

^^^ I was thinking too - about this picture - if there happened to have been a group of women on that corner they would have had a tough time getting that solo shot biggrin love

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Reply #85 posted 11/08/18 8:36pm

purplefam99

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^^^ I was thinking too - about this picture - if there happened to have been a group of women on that corner they would have had a tough time getting that solo shot biggrin love




Indeed!
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Reply #86 posted 11/09/18 6:36pm

minnesoundlvr

LittleProfessor said:

When I was a the RnRHOF doing research, I pulled up some of the rehearsal video. They didn't have this number in rehearsal catalogued (I suspect it might not have been filmed, or it might purposely not have been archived) , but they had the rehearsal/sound check of Prince's other performance. It was amazing because the level of the musicianship was great, and if you didn't know Prince's performance persona, you'd think it was great. But it was clearly a little toned-down for rehearsal (or not yet amped up for performance). There was a point at which he was staring off at something in the hall. I was just amazed at how good a "not on" Prince was. I never saw him live, BTW.

And in the video, staff were running around preparing the room for the evening - I wondered how cool a shift that must have been for people whose work is so behind-the-scenes to get a full-on Prince concert as a reward for some of the thankless work.

That sounds intriguing. Is there a direct link to the rehearsal video?

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