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Reply #30 posted 11/04/19 4:42pm

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violetcrush said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Oh! Like they discuss your obsession with The Melvoin's?! biggrin

I have discussions and posts about many who were involved with Prince during his career. Take a look at my post history. However, your posts have become quite predictable whenever there is a thread or post about a performance or concert. Sometimes it can be anything - like this thread about a song - that you turn into a grandiose tale about how you were “there” to witness it - usually mingling with all of his associates lol

Honestly, I don't really care if U or anyone doesn't believe me.That should be obvious by now. I know some that do. I will ALWAYS treasure ALL the memories of the hundreds of times I witnessed Prince(r.i.p.), LIVE & in the flesh in concert,after parties,talk & award shows, clubs etc.If a certain thing sparks my memory on here. I will CONTINUE to share ALL of them, on ANY given thread, at ANY given moment it helps my grieving. Don't like it? PLEASE skip over me. I promise when U go into cardiac arrest again when Susannah is omitted as the love of Prince's(r.i.p.) life I'll skip over U.

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Reply #31 posted 11/04/19 5:06pm

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Reply #32 posted 11/04/19 10:23pm

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I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.

Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.

The song The Sex of It definitely seems to have been done in the Kid Creole style, but August Darnell (aka Kid Creole) didn't form the band until 1980, when Prince was already forming The Time. I guess it’s possible that Prince saw them perform and copied that style for The Time. I always thought The Time’s style was the 20’s Gangster look - Stacy Adams shoes and bold print suits with coiffed hair. They were like “funk gangsters” smile

Nah, look up Dr. Buzzards Original Savannah Band. I have a feeling that Prince knew of August Darnell (aka Thomas Browder, and later aka Kid Creole) and this disco big band outfit during the disco age in the mid to later 1970's (they had a #1 hit in 1976).

August Darnell had EVERYTHING that Prince would have appreciated and respected.... big band leader, song writing, style, multi race and culture, women... all of it.

That said.... I am not sure if August Darnell was an inspiration for The Time... maybe that gangster funk look is based on something else.

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Reply #33 posted 11/05/19 5:24am

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andymacfunky said:

I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.

Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.

The song The Sex of It definitely seems to have been done in the Kid Creole style, but August Darnell (aka Kid Creole) didn't form the band until 1980, when Prince was already forming The Time. I guess it’s possible that Prince saw them perform and copied that style for The Time. I always thought The Time’s style was the 20’s Gangster look - Stacy Adams shoes and bold print suits with coiffed hair. They were like “funk gangsters” smile

I can't find the link to this interview for the life of me but I remember reading Eric Leeds explaining that one day he goes at Paisley and Prince is gone, the engineer plays him the song Prince had just recorded, Eric digs it and at the time also dug KC&TC at lot (they had just released their 87 album), so he takes it upon himself to record a horns line in order to give the song a KC&TC vibe, thinking Prince can choose to keep it or not. The next day, Prince tells him he heard the arrangements and finds them great, Eric asks what are you gonna do with it and, to Eric's amazement, Prince replies "I'm gonna send it to Kid Creole".

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This story seems contradicted by the fact that, according to Princevault, Darnell asked P for a song when they met in Europe in summer 88 during the Lovesexy Tour. It's however possible that this in fact took place a year earlier during the SOTT Tour, right before Prince recorded the song, or that Prince intended to send the song to Darnell anyway, but never got around doing it until Darnell asked him for a song a year later. Eric's memories of the recording session seemed pretty vivid so I can't imagine he made that one up.

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Reply #34 posted 11/05/19 9:23am

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violetcrush said:


andymacfunky said:

I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.


Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.













The song The Sex of It definitely seems to have been done in the Kid Creole style, but August Darnell (aka Kid Creole) didn't form the band until 1980, when Prince was already forming The Time. I guess it’s possible that Prince saw them perform and copied that style for The Time. I always thought The Time’s style was the 20’s Gangster look - Stacy Adams shoes and bold print suits with coiffed hair. They were like “funk gangsters” smile

I can't find the link to this interview for the life of me but I remember reading Eric Leeds explaining that one day he goes at Paisley and Prince is gone, the engineer plays him the song Prince had just recorded, Eric digs it and at the time also dug KC&TC at lot (they had just released their 87 album), so he takes it upon himself to record a horns line in order to give the song a KC&TC vibe, thinking Prince can choose to keep it or not. The next day, Prince tells him he heard the arrangements and finds them great, Eric asks what are you gonna do with it and, to Eric's amazement, Prince replies "I'm gonna send it to Kid Creole".


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This story seems contradicted by the fact that, according to Princevault, Darnell asked P for a song when they met in Europe in summer 88 during the Lovesexy Tour. It's however possible that this in fact took place a year earlier during the SOTT Tour, right before Prince recorded the song, or that Prince intended to send the song to Darnell anyway, but never got around doing it until Darnell asked him for a song a year later. Eric's memories of the recording session seemed pretty vivid so I can't imagine he made that one up.


Eric’s account makes sense. They were recording for the Madhouse record and Eric was in the SOTT band, so he would have been spending a lot of time at PP. He often did horn arrangements Prince on various songs too.
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Reply #35 posted 11/13/19 12:23pm

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Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band's first album was 1976 & they evolved into KC&tCoconuts. Like the term 'funk gangsters'

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Reply #36 posted 11/13/19 5:50pm

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piemel said:



violetcrush said:


andymacfunky said:

I always thought it funny that on the album, The Sex Of It followed No More Casual Sex.


Anyhow, the double concert DVD from 1982 is excellent, so much energy. Plus I agree with the above comment that Prince probably used the Kid Creole influence in styling The Time.













The song The Sex of It definitely seems to have been done in the Kid Creole style, but August Darnell (aka Kid Creole) didn't form the band until 1980, when Prince was already forming The Time. I guess it’s possible that Prince saw them perform and copied that style for The Time. I always thought The Time’s style was the 20’s Gangster look - Stacy Adams shoes and bold print suits with coiffed hair. They were like “funk gangsters” smile


Nah, look up Dr. Buzzards Original Savannah Band. I have a feeling that Prince knew of August Darnell (aka Thomas Browder, and later aka Kid Creole) and this disco big band outfit during the disco age in the mid to later 1970's (they had a #1 hit in 1976).



August Darnell had EVERYTHING that Prince would have appreciated and respected.... big band leader, song writing, style, multi race and culture, women... all of it.



That said.... I am not sure if August Darnell was an inspiration for The Time... maybe that gangster funk look is based on something else.


In Prince’s Auto Biography/Biography his original script called “Dreams” is included, which morphed into Purple Rain, and he describes Morris Day’s character as “living in the ghetto...people who live here don’t have much so they go mouth of their way to look as though they do...Zoot suits, wide-brimmed hats and Stacy Adams shoes are common. Morris and his band The Time are known for their cool attire.”
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So, he does not specify a specific person who inspired their look, but more a time period.
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