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Reply #30 posted 11/05/19 1:32pm

TwiliteKid

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jfenster said:

does the estate realize these configurationss would be highly saught after???

You really think an alternate For You would be big? Not so sure.

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Reply #31 posted 11/05/19 1:33pm

jfenster

TwiliteKid said:

jfenster said:

does the estate realize these configurationss would be highly saught after???

You really think an alternate For You would be big? Not so sure.

double it with the remaster....

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Reply #32 posted 11/05/19 2:46pm

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When I was a kid I thought I was a musical genius with album n song titles, covers, even movie ideas 😂.
Style is a peaceful wild y'all.
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Reply #33 posted 11/05/19 4:09pm

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I hope I never hear Prince's version of "Send in the Clowns". Honestly, I hope I never hear that song by anyone, ever. One of my most disliked songs ever.


Me too 🙈
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Reply #34 posted 11/05/19 4:33pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I hope I never hear Prince's version of "Send in the Clowns". Honestly, I hope I never hear that song by anyone, ever. One of my most disliked songs ever.

especially by subway Wall Street bros?

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #35 posted 11/05/19 11:55pm

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My st Graal 4ever would be the 1st more produced and longer version of When Doves Cry. !
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Reply #36 posted 11/06/19 7:30am

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SoulAlive said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:


imagine, if a lot diehard hardcore fans have hate for this track, just imagine the hate from mainstream audiences and music critics.`

For the song not to end up on an album, you know there was a lot of feedback from within the Prince camp with vocal misgivings about adding it to an album.

lol do you really believe that Prince listened to any "feedback from within the Prince camp" when choosing songs for his albums?

Yes, I think he did. He said it himself in a 1985 interview.

and songs like Manic Monday, Miss Understood, Jerk Out etc

he didn't include based on the groups/bands thoughts

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
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Reply #37 posted 11/06/19 7:46am

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Initial tracking took place on 14 January, 1982 at Sunset Sound, Hollywood, CA, USA (three days after Bold Generation and Gigolos Get Lonely Too, the same day as The Walk, and the day before Colleen), during sessions for The Time's second album What Time Is It?.

It was intended to be sung by Morris Day, but Prince reclaimed the song to use on 1999 instead. It is likely that Morris Day recorded vocals for the song during these sessions, but this is unconfirmed.

-PrinceVault

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The Time: What Time Is It?, home studio, 11 January 1982
Gigolos Get Lonely Too (4:40)*
Bold Generation The Time: What Time Is It?, Sunset Sound, 14-20 January 1982
International Lover (6:35)* (14/1)
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3. What Time Is It?

In late December 1981, during a break at his "Controversy"-Tour, [Prince] starts the recording sessions for THE TIME's second album. He recorded Gigolos get lonely too and Jerk out at his home studio again. The last mentioned song didn't make it on this album, but a reworked version surfaced on THE TIME's 1990 reunion-album [Pandemonium]. From 14th to 20th January 1982 the sessions continued at Hollywood Sunset Sound, where he recorded The walk, Wild and loose and a previously unreleased track called Colleen. Another previously unreleased leftover from this sessions was a song called Bold generation, recorded 11th January 1982 either at [Prince]'s home studio or Hollywood Sunset Sound.

#IDEFINEME #ALBUMSSTILLMATTER

A Liar Shall Not Tarry In My Presence
I will make you cyber shit in your pants!
What's the matter with your life
Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In
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Reply #38 posted 11/09/19 6:32pm

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jfenster said:

r there studio ..not rehearsal versions...of IWD4U, BIAS, and Purple rain?



We know BIAS studio exists, at least in demo form. The fact that both BIAS and IWD4U appear on an album/soundtrack track list 18 months before the live recordings, I'd be shocked if they didn't exist as studio versions much earlier.

Purple Rain song seems a much later concept, so it's much harder to judge.
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Reply #39 posted 11/11/19 2:11pm

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We have all those rehearsals of Bodyheat, he was clearly a big fan of it, I wonder if Bodyfreeze was some kind of answer song?

Also that rehearsal we have of I would Die 4 U is from, what, February 1982? Controversy era. There must be, or have been, a demo of some kind from around then as well.
[Edited 11/11/19 14:14pm]
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Reply #40 posted 11/11/19 2:39pm

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BartVanHemelen said:



SquirrelMeat said:



For me, the most interesting bit is that he began to develop Dreams in so much detail so early, even before 1999 was released, and that Dreams, in some ways, is more reflected in Graffiti Bridge than it is in Purple Rain.




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Kinda revealing how GB is in many aspects a "retrospective" project. A scenario dating back to September 1987, songs dating back to 1981,... I'm wondering if Prince was in a creative lull around that time, because http://www.princevault.co...orded_1990 isn't exactly a treasure trove.


The Prince-penned tracks on Pandemonium support this as well. There's a lot of factors at play but it can't be a coincidence that something intrinsic in his sound changed around this period as well. The nude tour is arguably his first backwards looking tour as well.
[Edited 11/11/19 14:41pm]
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Reply #41 posted 11/14/19 5:32pm

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jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Kinda revealing how GB is in many aspects a "retrospective" project. A scenario dating back to September 1987, songs dating back to 1981,... I'm wondering if Prince was in a creative lull around that time, because http://www.princevault.co...orded_1990 isn't exactly a treasure trove.

The Prince-penned tracks on Pandemonium support this as well. There's a lot of factors at play but it can't be a coincidence that something intrinsic in his sound changed around this period as well. The nude tour is arguably his first backwards looking tour as well. [Edited 11/11/19 14:41pm]



Good point. Maybe Prince was having a classic case of writers block in 1990, and it took the new band and the 'rap' influence to point him in a significant new direction change with Diamonds and Pearls.

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Reply #42 posted 11/15/19 11:44am

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SquirrelMeat said:

jaawwnn said:

BartVanHemelen said: The Prince-penned tracks on Pandemonium support this as well. There's a lot of factors at play but it can't be a coincidence that something intrinsic in his sound changed around this period as well. The nude tour is arguably his first backwards looking tour as well. [Edited 11/11/19 14:41pm]



Good point. Maybe Prince was having a classic case of writers block in 1990, and it took the new band and the 'rap' influence to point him in a significant new direction change with Diamonds and Pearls.



I don't think he was in a creative lull, but probably feeling a sense of urgency after Batman to do SOMETHING related to film. I think the GB film kept him preoccupied. As good, bad or indfifferent as that was (well, just bad).

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