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Thread started 11/08/19 3:42pm

thebanishedone

Prince already used whammy bar in the late 90s?

i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

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Reply #1 posted 11/08/19 4:50pm

LoveGalore

What do you mean he didn't use it until 2000? You point to several options and then say but not until 2000?

He also starts Endorphinmachine with a pretty big dive.
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Reply #2 posted 11/08/19 4:57pm

coldasice

That’s a whammy pedal and a wah. No whammy bar on J2J.
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Reply #3 posted 11/08/19 6:21pm

FunkyStrange

thebanishedone said:

i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

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Reply #4 posted 11/09/19 3:47am

thebanishedone

FunkyStrange said:

thebanishedone said:

i know that except Private Joy and 777 9311 guitar solo Prince didnt use whammy bar.

he didnt use it until 2000

but listen to Joint 2 Joint guitar solo

he is clearly using one

also some tracks on 1999 and Lovesexy u can hear whammy,though Lovesexy can be Miko

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

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Reply #5 posted 11/09/19 1:39pm

FunkyStrange

thebanishedone said:

FunkyStrange said:

I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002 as he had them fitted to a few of his guitars while in Japan for ONA.. he then used them for years until eventually dropping them again

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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Reply #6 posted 11/10/19 3:11am

thebanishedone

FunkyStrange said:

thebanishedone said:

actuall he had whammy bar on his guitar starting with year 2000.

he incorporated it on his symbol habibi guitar first

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.

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Reply #7 posted 11/15/19 10:41am

lurker316

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thebanishedone said:

FunkyStrange said:

anything to back that up ? I dont recall hearing any evidence of it until Japan ONA but i'd have to go back and listen to be sure..

Also I can't recall a single picture of a whammy bar pre-Nov 2002 - got any to show me?

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so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.



I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.






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Reply #8 posted 11/15/19 10:59am

coldasice

That’s not a whammy bar in family name either. It’s that digitech pedal, maybe an octave pedal and a wah. Same pedal Tom Morello uses to make his crazy sounds
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Reply #9 posted 11/15/19 5:26pm

thebanishedone

lurker316 said:

thebanishedone said:

so u didnt hear whammy bar on guitar solos on Fmily Name? cuz there is whammy on every single solo even studio version.

Bambi 2001 celebration he used whammy bar also.



I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.






Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars

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Reply #10 posted 11/16/19 1:04pm

lurker316

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thebanishedone said:

lurker316 said:


I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.

Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars



Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.


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Reply #11 posted 11/16/19 1:18pm

thebanishedone

lurker316 said:

thebanishedone said:

Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars



Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.


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[Edited 11/16/19 13i dont know how to post picture here but open this link you will see photo of Prince with habibi guitar with whammy bar.thats from 2001 also u can find prince playing Bambi seging at the end of Family Name on 2001 celebration so here is the link with picture from 2001 https://radiomilwaukee.or...rs-prince/

summerfest-remembers-prince

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Reply #12 posted 11/16/19 2:14pm

thebanishedone

https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

heres a link Prince playing Bambi 2001 you can c and hear whammy bar work

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Reply #13 posted 11/18/19 8:12am

coldasice

lurker316 said:



thebanishedone said:




lurker316 said:





I don't know if there's a whammy bar on Family Name (my ears are sophisticated enough to distinguish it). But even if there is, that's doesn't refute what @FunkyStrage wrote. His original statement was: "I'm not saying he never used whammy bar on the odd occasion but he didn't start using it regularly in live performances unti November 2002."

The use of a whammy bar in Family Name may count as "the odd occassion" and says nothing about its use, regular or otherwise, in live performances.

I don't have an opinion on this and I'm not taking sides -- I just want to be sure you two aren't talking past each other.



Joy In Rep ona aftershow is early march 2002.on hit n run tour 2001 Prince already had whammy bar attached to his symbol guitars






Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.



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Nope just play and own the pedal. Google digitech Whammy pedal. It’s very easy to tell the difference. Orgasm though is definitely a bar. I don’t know if your familiar with Tom Morello, but he practically made his career off using that pedal. Prince did have one attached, but it’s not used in that song. Joint to joint is definitely the pedal and maybe some studio volume trickery
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Reply #14 posted 11/18/19 12:51pm

thebanishedone

coldasice said:

lurker316 said:



Do you have a photo or some other documentation to back that up? Again, I'm not saying you're wrong. I have no knowledge, expertise or opinion in this matter. But if you want to persaude @FunkyStrange that you're correct, all you have to do is provide some evidence.


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Nope just play and own the pedal. Google digitech Whammy pedal. It’s very easy to tell the difference. Orgasm though is definitely a bar. I don’t know if your familiar with Tom Morello, but he practically made his career off using that pedal. Prince did have one attached, but it’s not used in that song. Joint to joint is definitely the pedal and maybe some studio volume trickery

Joint 2 Joint is pedal ok but u have seen Bambi video from 2001? u can see him using whammy bar a lot during that solo.

he def started using whammy from 2001 to the end of 2012

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Reply #15 posted 11/18/19 4:11pm

thebanishedone

i really dont understand you guys. in this video

https://uploadstars.com/v...1B9MX1D3KB

you can see Prince doing dive bombs with whammy bar in 2001 and you still dont believe that Prince used whammy bar in 2001

Remember the track Habibi Machine Gun? well on the day that single came out showed up

a picture of Habibi guitar and it had for the first time whAmmy bar attached on his guitar.

Lurker said that Prince didnt use whammy until nov 2002

what Lurker got wrong is that Prince started using floyd rose equiped fender strat guitars when he bought strat in Japan 2002

but of course Prince had strats since day 1 of his career but didnt use them live until 2003

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