independent and unofficial
Prince fan community site
Thu 27th Feb 2020 11:25am
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince We Are the World line given to Huey Lewis
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 02/12/20 8:26am

AZStreet

avatar

Prince We Are the World line given to Huey Lewis

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.

As you all know, the line follows right behind Michael in the bridge.

bawl

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 02/12/20 8:43am

Genesia

avatar

What are you blubbing about? Prince made the right decision.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 02/12/20 9:01am

AZStreet

avatar

Genesia said:

What are you blubbing about? Prince made the right decision.


I think so too, but it's always fun for me to think of the couldve been interactions.

But also, it was hilarity watching the behind the scenes and Huey was practicing the shit out of his lines and Michael was watching like he was fed up with the voice lol

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 02/12/20 9:02am

skywalker

avatar

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.

As you all know, the line follows right behind Michael in the bridge.

bawl

We are the World....one of the schmaltziest, corny, self serving things ever to happen in popular music.

I am glad Prince wasn't there. Especially in 1985. He gave them Sheila E. and 4 The Years in Your Eyes.

What they really wanted was Batman (Prince) standing next to Superman (Michael). Trouble is, Batman works best on his own terms and in his own cave....

[Edited 2/12/20 9:02am]

"New Power slide...."
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 02/12/20 9:19am

TrivialPursuit

avatar

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.


Thirty-five years later, this isn't news. Even on the reprinted sheet music in a book, all the singers names were over their parts, and Prince's name was hovered over by Huey.

And to Skywalker - in 1985, it wasn't schmaltz. It was all over the damn place. For any of us alive during that time (I don't know your age), as teenagers, it was as real and fun as "Human Nature" or "Time After Time." Of course, hindsight etc. It's cringy now, but back then? Sheeeet. To have all those people in the same room without the pretense of an award show was pretty amazing.

It would've been interesting to see Prince there, though. Sheila seemed out of place or awkward, which is weird since she'd been in the business a long time already, and probably knew a good deal of those people.

I'm surprised no one ever talks about the Waylon Jennings story. His name is on the single. But he's not on the song or in the video. The story goes that when MJ suggested a background on the chorus of "Sha-la, sha-ling-gay" (or similar but was replaced with "one world..." "...are the children"), Waylon protested that a country boy wasn't singing some African music, and walked out. To me, that's more interesitng than the Prince story.

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 02/12/20 9:29am

AZStreet

avatar

skywalker said:

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.

As you all know, the line follows right behind Michael in the bridge.

bawl

We are the World....one of the schmaltziest, corny, self serving things ever to happen in popular music.

I am glad Prince wasn't there. Especially in 1985. He gave them Sheila E. and 4 The Years in Your Eyes.

What they really wanted was Batman (Prince) standing next to Superman (Michael). Trouble is, Batman works best on his own terms and in his own cave....

[Edited 2/12/20 9:02am]

I dont think it was schmaltz tbh...to have all those artists in one room was amazing for its time. I think



But also idk what made Quincy want to push his luck again with the Prince/MJ Bad collab two years later if he denied a charity collab.



(Bit off topic but speaking of self serving, A question was brought up about this We are the world session where one of the QLS hosts was asking Al B Sure last year (because of his Quincy ties) if the artists donated songs to the project...did they also donate their publishing. Because the B-side of the We Are The World single is a song called Grace written by Quincy...and if Quincy put it on the back of a record that he knows is going to sell then he a pulled a fast one)

[Edited 2/12/20 9:32am]

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 02/12/20 9:38am

MickyDolenz

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

I'm surprised no one ever talks about the Waylon Jennings story. His name is on the single. But he's not on the song or in the video. The story goes that when MJ suggested a background on the chorus of "Sha-la, sha-ling-gay" (or similar but was replaced with "one world..." "...are the children"), Waylon protested that a country boy wasn't singing some African music, and walked out. To me, that's more interesitng than the Prince story.

Actually it was Stevie Wonder, who wanted to add some lines in Swahili to the song. Waylon did not want to do that. Ray Charles did not want to sing that either. Someone pointed out that the money was mostly going to Eithiopia where they didn't speak Swahili anyway. It was dropped but Waylon was gone already. It's rumored that he later returned.

How Waylon Jennings Forever Changed We Are The World

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 02/12/20 9:43am

AZStreet

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.


Thirty-five years later, this isn't news. Even on the reprinted sheet music in a book, all the singers names were over their parts, and Prince's name was hovered over by Huey.

And to Skywalker - in 1985, it wasn't schmaltz. It was all over the damn place. For any of us alive during that time (I don't know your age), as teenagers, it was as real and fun as "Human Nature" or "Time After Time." Of course, hindsight etc. It's cringy now, but back then? Sheeeet. To have all those people in the same room without the pretense of an award show was pretty amazing.

It would've been interesting to see Prince there, though. Sheila seemed out of place or awkward, which is weird since she'd been in the business a long time already, and probably knew a good deal of those people.

I'm surprised no one ever talks about the Waylon Jennings story. His name is on the single. But he's not on the song or in the video. The story goes that when MJ suggested a background on the chorus of "Sha-la, sha-ling-gay" (or similar but was replaced with "one world..." "...are the children"), Waylon protested that a country boy wasn't singing some African music, and walked out. To me, that's more interesitng than the Prince story.



Definitely my first time hearing about this Waylon Jennings story. Going to look it up more.


Sheila felt outta place for sure. I mean she played on Dont Stop till you get enough which she didnt get credit for...and also because she was Diana Ross' percussionist but quit after the second show cause Diana dogged her since Sheila's family came to support and were screaming for Sheila and not Diana lol

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 02/12/20 10:07am

Genesia

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.


Thirty-five years later, this isn't news. Even on the reprinted sheet music in a book, all the singers names were over their parts, and Prince's name was hovered over by Huey.

And to Skywalker - in 1985, it wasn't schmaltz. It was all over the damn place. For any of us alive during that time (I don't know your age), as teenagers, it was as real and fun as "Human Nature" or "Time After Time." Of course, hindsight etc. It's cringy now, but back then? Sheeeet. To have all those people in the same room without the pretense of an award show was pretty amazing.


To anyone who wasn't a teenager in 1985, it was totally cringey in the moment.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 02/12/20 10:28am

skywalker

avatar

TrivialPursuit said:

AZStreet said:

Listening to Questlove Supreme on my way to work. He was interviewing Huey Lewis.

They were talking about how Huey got one of the leads and he said that he was given what would have been Prince's line.


Thirty-five years later, this isn't news. Even on the reprinted sheet music in a book, all the singers names were over their parts, and Prince's name was hovered over by Huey.

And to Skywalker - in 1985, it wasn't schmaltz. It was all over the damn place. For any of us alive during that time (I don't know your age), as teenagers, it was as real and fun as "Human Nature" or "Time After Time." Of course, hindsight etc. It's cringy now, but back then? Sheeeet. To have all those people in the same room without the pretense of an award show was pretty amazing.

It would've been interesting to see Prince there, though. Sheila seemed out of place or awkward, which is weird since she'd been in the business a long time already, and probably knew a good deal of those people.

I'm surprised no one ever talks about the Waylon Jennings story. His name is on the single. But he's not on the song or in the video. The story goes that when MJ suggested a background on the chorus of "Sha-la, sha-ling-gay" (or similar but was replaced with "one world..." "...are the children"), Waylon protested that a country boy wasn't singing some African music, and walked out. To me, that's more interesitng than the Prince story.

I was in grade school when "We Are The World" was going on. Yeah, we thought it was cool then. Yet, compare how well "human nature" and "time after time" have aged compared to We are the World.

"New Power slide...."
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 02/12/20 10:46am

rdhull

avatar

This shit again? I always turned the channel when it came on the radio.

"Climb in my fur."
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 02/12/20 11:22am

MickyDolenz

avatar

AZStreet said:

(Bit off topic but speaking of self serving, A question was brought up about this We are the world session where one of the QLS hosts was asking Al B Sure last year (because of his Quincy ties) if the artists donated songs to the project...did they also donate their publishing. Because the B-side of the We Are The World single is a song called Grace written by Quincy...and if Quincy put it on the back of a record that he knows is going to sell then he a pulled a fast one)

I have the maxi single & album (and the DVD too). Grace is not on the album. Maybe he was expecting the single to sell more than the album. razz

I just looked up the Artists For Haiti version from 2010. It has a promo maxi single with Mike's Heal The World and his solo demo of We Are The World, plus the USA For Africa original.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 02/12/20 11:31am

AZStreet

avatar

MickyDolenz said:

AZStreet said:

(Bit off topic but speaking of self serving, A question was brought up about this We are the world session where one of the QLS hosts was asking Al B Sure last year (because of his Quincy ties) if the artists donated songs to the project...did they also donate their publishing. Because the B-side of the We Are The World single is a song called Grace written by Quincy...and if Quincy put it on the back of a record that he knows is going to sell then he a pulled a fast one)

I have the maxi single & album (and the DVD too). Grace is not on the album. Maybe he was expecting the single to sell more than the album. razz

I just looked up the Artists For Haiti version from 2010. It has a promo maxi single with Mike's Heal The World and his solo demo of We Are The World, plus the USA For Africa original.


Hmm I wonder cause I looked it up

https://www.discogs.com/U...e/10120051

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 02/12/20 11:54am

TheFman

I was in school back when it came out and it was cringey then and it is cringey now.

Our Band Aid however, THAT was a great tune and well done.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 02/12/20 1:15pm

TrivialPursuit

avatar

skywalker said:

I was in grade school when "We Are The World" was going on. Yeah, we thought it was cool then. Yet, compare how well "human nature" and "time after time" have aged compared to We are the World.


No arguments there!

This experience will cover courtship, sex, commitment, fetishes, loneliness, vindication, love, and hate.
http://bit.ly/1D3FG2U
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 02/12/20 1:17pm

funkaholic1972

avatar

TheFman said:

I was in school back when it came out and it was cringey then and it is cringey now.

Our Band Aid however, THAT was a great tune and well done.

Both songs sucked, sorry.

RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time!
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 02/13/20 4:10am

WhisperingDand
elions

avatar

You really can't properly assess/categorize schmaltz in the moment. It takes a couple years of cooling off and another few of reflection to truly bask in the wafting fromage of what was always crisp reality.

[Edited 2/13/20 4:11am]

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 02/13/20 6:20am

Genesia

avatar

WhisperingDandelions said:

You really can't properly assess/categorize schmaltz in the moment. It takes a couple years of cooling off and another few of reflection to truly bask in the wafting fromage of what was always crisp reality.


What a ridiculous statement. Of course, you can.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 02/13/20 6:27am

jaawwnn

avatar

funkaholic1972 said:

TheFman said:

I was in school back when it came out and it was cringey then and it is cringey now.

Our Band Aid however, THAT was a great tune and well done.

Both songs sucked, sorry.

Wait a minute, you're not sorry at all!

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 02/13/20 7:04am

Galaxy

Such a terrible song. Prince was absolutely right not to participate in that song. The song he gave to the cause was excellent.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 02/13/20 10:45am

rdhull

avatar

Prince was in NO WAY going to sing a song that was written by someone else, much less Michael Jackson. He was at the apex of his career and he was expected to sing from the second twin tower of rnb-pop? Fuck outta here! lol. And that story of him not being able to go out and pretend he was under the weather? After dude finished the award show with stellar performance and winning mainstream televised awards? He was expected not to go out partying? FOH! It's understandable wanting to go out and celebrate. They wanted him to stay in a hotel all night after his triumph? No way.


.

[Edited 2/13/20 11:05am]

"Climb in my fur."
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 02/13/20 12:45pm

WhisperingDand
elions

avatar

Genesia said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

You really can't properly assess/categorize schmaltz in the moment. It takes a couple years of cooling off and another few of reflection to truly bask in the wafting fromage of what was always crisp reality.


What a ridiculous statement. Of course, you can.

Mm, okay, maybe you can, Sunshine, but I can't.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 02/13/20 1:28pm

Genesia

avatar

rdhull said:

Prince was in NO WAY going to sing a song that was written by someone else, much less Michael Jackson. He was at the apex of his career and he was expected to sing from the second twin tower of rnb-pop? Fuck outta here! lol. And that story of him not being able to go out and pretend he was under the weather? After dude finished the award show with stellar performance and winning mainstream televised awards? He was expected not to go out partying? FOH! It's understandable wanting to go out and celebrate. They wanted him to stay in a hotel all night after his triumph? No way.




Plus, if he hadn't gone out, we never would've gotten Hello - so there's that.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 02/13/20 2:59pm

RODSERLING

MickyDolenz said:



TrivialPursuit said:


I'm surprised no one ever talks about the Waylon Jennings story. His name is on the single. But he's not on the song or in the video. The story goes that when MJ suggested a background on the chorus of "Sha-la, sha-ling-gay" (or similar but was replaced with "one world..." "...are the children"), Waylon protested that a country boy wasn't singing some African music, and walked out. To me, that's more interesitng than the Prince story.



Actually it was Stevie Wonder, who wanted to add some lines in Swahili to the song. Waylon did not want to do that. Ray Charles did not want to sing that either. Someone pointed out that the money was mostly going to Eithiopia where they didn't speak Swahili anyway. It was dropped but Waylon was gone already. It's rumored that he later returned.

How Waylon Jennings Forever Changed We Are The World



No, MJ sang it in the early demo, well before Stevie Wonder heard it.
You are all confounding stories.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 02/13/20 3:04pm

looby

Genesia said:

What are you blubbing about? Prince made the right decision.

I agree, and think that Prince made the right decision as well. I still can't picture Prince among all those singing such a cheesy song. lol

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 02/13/20 3:41pm

MickyDolenz

avatar

RODSERLING said:

No, MJ sang it in the early demo, well before Stevie Wonder heard it. You are all confounding stories.

Mike sang no Swahili in the demo. I wasn't taking about the "Shalingay". The part where Mike brings up the Shalingay to the choir is on the behind the scenes DVD hosted by Jane Fonda. They also start singing Day-O because Harry Belafonte is there. Waylon left because of the Swahili idea by Stevie, which is mentioned in the article. Stevie has sang in other languages on his own records. I have a Motown compilation of various acts doing their songs in other languages including Stevie singing in Italian & Spanish. Sort of like The Beatles doing German versions of a couple of songs. You can also see Waylon there on the behind the scenes, but it doesn't show the argument or him walking out. I guess its hidden in a vault like The Supremes shoving match at Motown 25. lol The DVD has a later 10th anniversary TV special that mentions the Hands Across America thing too.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 02/13/20 4:15pm

MickyDolenz

avatar

AZStreet said:

Hmm I wonder cause I looked it up

https://www.discogs.com/U...e/10120051

Grace is a slow song. A lot of synths like a lot of mid-1980s smooth jazz. It sounds like it could be the music playing for a sports montage or playing in the background of a soap opera.

For 65 years straight, the #1 genre in music, selling wise, was rock n' roll worldwide. Last year (2017) in June, it got de-crowned by hip hop. Hip hop is the #1 genre. It's hip hop - rock - country - pop or pop - country. ~ Pras
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 02/13/20 5:03pm

pdiddy2011

AZStreet said:

Genesia said:

What are you blubbing about? Prince made the right decision.


I think so too, but it's always fun for me to think of the couldve been interactions.

But also, it was hilarity watching the behind the scenes and Huey was practicing the shit out of his lines and Michael was watching like he was fed up with the voice lol



Michael Jackson, Q, and it appears SEVERAL people got a good laugh out of Huey Lewis one line. And I have to admit, it didn't sound too good in practice. Especially immediately after MJs silky sound.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 02/13/20 5:11pm

RODSERLING

MickyDolenz said:



RODSERLING said:


No, MJ sang it in the early demo, well before Stevie Wonder heard it. You are all confounding stories.

Mike sang no Swahili in the demo. I wasn't taking about the "Shalingay". The part where Mike brings up the Shalingay to the choir is on the behind the scenes DVD hosted by Jane Fonda. They also start singing Day-O because Harry Belafonte is there. Waylon left because of the Swahili idea by Stevie, which is mentioned in the article. Stevie has sang in other languages on his own records. I have a Motown compilation of various acts doing their songs in other languages including Stevie singing in Italian & Spanish. Sort of like The Beatles doing German versions of a couple of songs. You can also see Waylon there on the behind the scenes, but it doesn't show the argument or him walking out. I guess its hidden in a vault like The Supremes shoving match at Motown 25. lol The DVD has a later 10th anniversary TV special that mentions the Hands Across America thing too.



The post you quoted talked about the 'shalingi" gimmick, not Swahili.
It was QJ who decided to give up the "Shalini" thing.
 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 02/13/20 5:17pm

pdiddy2011

pdiddy2011 said:

AZStreet said:


I think so too, but it's always fun for me to think of the couldve been interactions.

But also, it was hilarity watching the behind the scenes and Huey was practicing the shit out of his lines and Michael was watching like he was fed up with the voice lol



Michael Jackson, Q, and it appears SEVERAL people got a good laugh out of Huey Lewis one line. And I have to admit, it didn't sound too good in practice. Especially immediately after MJs silky sound.



I'm not sure I've ever seen two worse bact-to-back performances (Huey Lewis and Cyndi Lauper). That was GHASTLY. disbelief shake

I don't know how the other artists kept a straight face.

 Reply w/quote - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
Reply   New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Prince We Are the World line given to Huey Lewis