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Thread started 05/13/20 11:20am

Astasheiks

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What do you think Prince would say if he knew his Vault Material was Moved to CA?

Do you think he would be Mad as Hell or wouldn't Give a Damn or somewhere in the Middle? smile

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Reply #1 posted 05/13/20 11:25am

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I believe that the facility in California is a good place

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Reply #2 posted 05/13/20 11:34am

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luv4u said:

I believe that the facility in California is a good place

The city hall I work has hired Iron Mountain in the past a few times. They have good rep.



Side note, There have been many, many times here in LA when I have driven past an Iron Mountain truck/s on the freeway and think..."maybe I should follow it...what are are the chances that I'm driving next to Prince's vault materials " faint

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Reply #3 posted 05/13/20 12:26pm

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Honestly, I have no idea or thought about what Prince would or would not say about his vault material being moved if he knew, because as we all know, he's dead, and it's just all for naught to even speculate about it, because that's something that we will never know.

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Reply #4 posted 05/13/20 12:27pm

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Not the first time some of his masters were kept in California. Don't think California would be the issue, but he might have opinions of Iron Mountain, or hiring someone else to do the preservation.

I guess Iron Mountain could have been hired to build a wing on PP, but how realistic is that?

Plus it's all trivial once a backup has been made.

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Reply #5 posted 05/13/20 1:44pm

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he wouldn't say anything about it, he'd write a shit hot track about it, because you know
he always wrote some gems when he was pissed off smile guitar



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Reply #6 posted 05/13/20 2:00pm

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He could have prevented it by A) writing a will, or B) taking better care of his vault so that moving his material to a better storage environment wasn't necessary. Just saying.

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Reply #7 posted 05/13/20 3:56pm

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mbdtyler said:

He could have prevented it by A) writing a will, or B) taking better care of his vault so that moving his material to a better storage environment wasn't necessary. Just saying.


It wasn't so much the storage as the type of media that existed. The tapes needed to be baked and digitized. That's a huge process.
The vault was fine for HIS purposes.

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Reply #8 posted 05/13/20 4:18pm

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IstenSzek said:

he wouldn't say anything about it, he'd write a shit hot track about it, because you know
he always wrote some gems when he was pissed off smile guitar






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Reply #9 posted 05/14/20 11:38am

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AZStreet said:

luv4u said:

I believe that the facility in California is a good place

The city hall I work has hired Iron Mountain in the past a few times. They have good rep.



Side note, There have been many, many times here in LA when I have driven past an Iron Mountain truck/s on the freeway and think..."maybe I should follow it...what are are the chances that I'm driving next to Prince's vault materials " faint

Where is the address Iron Mountain facility in California? smile razz confused

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Reply #10 posted 05/14/20 11:42am

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Astasheiks said:

AZStreet said:

The city hall I work has hired Iron Mountain in the past a few times. They have good rep.



Side note, There have been many, many times here in LA when I have driven past an Iron Mountain truck/s on the freeway and think..."maybe I should follow it...what are are the chances that I'm driving next to Prince's vault materials " faint

Where is the address Iron Mountain facility in California? smile razz confused

Google is your friend. biggrin

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Reply #11 posted 05/14/20 2:00pm

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IstenSzek said:

he wouldn't say anything about it, he'd write a shit hot track about it, because you know
he always wrote some gems when he was pissed off smile guitar





I agree. PFUNK and Hello are some gems; what are some other's? Off the subject, I know.
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Reply #12 posted 05/14/20 2:31pm

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kingricefan said:

Astasheiks said:

Where is the address Iron Mountain facility in California? smile razz confused

Google is your friend. biggrin

And there are several locations in CA. One article says they are in LA location.... Anyone know if this correct? And by Google the place doesn't look like much, maybe worse than the vault Or does Google have it wrong...? eek biggrin

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Reply #13 posted 05/14/20 2:48pm

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Astasheiks said:



kingricefan said:




Astasheiks said:




Where is the address Iron Mountain facility in California? smile razz confused



Google is your friend. biggrin




And there are several locations in CA. One article says they are in LA location.... Anyone know if this correct? And by Google the place doesn't look like much, maybe worse than the vault Or does Google have it wrong...? eek biggrin

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I thought Iron Mountain was an actual mountain with the perfect climate for preservation. Maybe I'm wrong and it was just a dream.
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Reply #14 posted 05/14/20 4:49pm

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He is dead, so he can't say anything. If he were alive, it wouldn't have been moved there.

The whole question makes no sense, sorry.

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Reply #15 posted 05/16/20 6:51am

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IstenSzek said:

he wouldn't say anything about it, he'd write a shit hot track about it, because you know
he always wrote some gems when he was pissed off smile guitar

But I thought Wendy wrote Iron "Mountains".

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Reply #16 posted 05/17/20 12:53pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

IstenSzek said:

he wouldn't say anything about it, he'd write a shit hot track about it, because you know
he always wrote some gems when he was pissed off smile guitar

But I thought Wendy wrote Iron "Mountains".

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Reply #17 posted 05/17/20 4:05pm

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Well, if it is a better place to save his precious music (which were his children), he would probably say that's good. As much as he wanted to keep it all in the basement vault, I imagine it was not the best location (moisture problems, no matter where U live) now that he has passed.

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Reply #18 posted 05/17/20 4:13pm

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He'd say somebody lied about the way somebody died.

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Reply #19 posted 05/17/20 4:28pm

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luv4u said:

I believe that the facility in California is a good place

Sure. Nothing could go wrong on the San Andreas fault line.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #20 posted 05/18/20 7:04am

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A purpose built, climate controlled facility or a damp basement, stacked in cardboard boxes. Hmmmmm, tough one.

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Reply #21 posted 05/19/20 11:51am

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His material could not be in a better facility than Iron Mountain.

Now, what the engineers do after the material is restored is another debate. Reverb, tape hiss and tape speed are 3 things that have come up in the last year or so.

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Reply #22 posted 05/19/20 1:30pm

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I do like your posts in general Astasheiks but I have to agree with ludwig who posted earlier. That's its a weird question. Prince, if alive, would never have let this happen in the first place. His music was his life and he would have made it so the master recordings were in Paisley Park. Even in an outdated vault that could have used some improvements to turn into a modern facility.

The only way he would have allowed his music to be moved to CA is if he were dead. And unfortunately that's true. Hypothetically if both were true (Prince being alive and his music being in CA) he would have started a "slave era" all over again and would have gone bananas!!!

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Reply #23 posted 05/20/20 7:12pm

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Se7en said:

Reverb, tape hiss and tape speed are 3 things that have come up in the last year or so.


Those things are getting easier to correct. Tape bleeding and tapes shredding are the real problem.

Tape speed will be fun, because he was known to purposely screw with tape speed once we get into the Susan Rogers period of recording, so without notes or some real help, finding the right pitch could be trouble.

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Reply #24 posted 05/21/20 1:27am

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lavendardrummachine said:

Se7en said:

Reverb, tape hiss and tape speed are 3 things that have come up in the last year or so.


Those things are getting easier to correct. Tape bleeding and tapes shredding are the real problem.

Tape speed will be fun, because he was known to purposely screw with tape speed once we get into the Susan Rogers period of recording, so without notes or some real help, finding the right pitch could be trouble.

He's referring to basic voice + single instrument demo type recordings like Piano & Microphone, not aesthetic tape speed multitracking experimentation. The proper speed would/should be the proper tuning/pitch in those instances, the errors occur because tape speed gets effected when you use a different machine for playback than what machine was used for recording.

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Reply #25 posted 05/21/20 1:35am

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vinaysfunk said:

I do like your posts in general Astasheiks but I have to agree with ludwig who posted earlier. That's its a weird question. Prince, if alive, would never have let this happen in the first place.

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Ah yes, the same man who left master tapes all over the place. Real careful dude. Didn't even bother to get the climate system of his vault repaired. Had water leak on unreplacable items. Oh, and remember how several of PP's expensive recording studios were out of commision because they'd fallen in disrepair?

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His music was his life and he would have made it so the master recordings were in Paisley Park.

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Susan Rogers started the vault because Prince left tapes all over the place.

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Which he continue to do later on. Rumor is at least one master tapes is in the hands of collectors.

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Reply #26 posted 05/28/20 1:20pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:

lavendardrummachine said:


Those things are getting easier to correct. Tape bleeding and tapes shredding are the real problem.

Tape speed will be fun, because he was known to purposely screw with tape speed once we get into the Susan Rogers period of recording, so without notes or some real help, finding the right pitch could be trouble.

He's referring to basic voice + single instrument demo type recordings like Piano & Microphone, not aesthetic tape speed multitracking experimentation. The proper speed would/should be the proper tuning/pitch in those instances, the errors occur because tape speed gets effected when you use a different machine for playback than what machine was used for recording.

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In the case of Piano & Microphone, they decided to leave the tape hiss and tape speed "as-is" to maintain artistic intent. I say fix whatever audio you can without altering the actual content.

For Originals and 1999 Super Deluxe, they added reverb using personal taste as a guide. The song "If It'll Make U Happy" from 1999 SD is virtually unlistenable. The boot I have is better.

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Reply #27 posted 05/28/20 8:28pm

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I'm thinking he may not have liked it, simply because he had no say in it. He seem to prefer everything close and dear to him in his city Minneapolis.

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Reply #28 posted 05/29/20 10:06am

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I think he cared more about the tapes being close to his studio, so he could take a tape and work on whatever song was on it. Not sure about the last years, but I think he never moved to a completely digital way of recording. If he did, I'm sure he would have appreciated a good digital multitrack transfer to easily pull up any song in his vault and work on it, without needing an assistant or engineer to do it and then find out the tape was a bit wonky.

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So, he wouldn't have liked it if it interfered in his recording. As it is, if there is such a thing as heaven and from it you can see the goings on on earth, I don't think he'll mind. Or at least, it'll be a much smaller problem than what's going on with the estate and the fighting over who he may have liked the best at any moment.

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Reply #29 posted 05/29/20 11:45am

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Se7en said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

He's referring to basic voice + single instrument demo type recordings like Piano & Microphone, not aesthetic tape speed multitracking experimentation. The proper speed would/should be the proper tuning/pitch in those instances, the errors occur because tape speed gets effected when you use a different machine for playback than what machine was used for recording.

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In the case of Piano & Microphone, they decided to leave the tape hiss and tape speed "as-is" to maintain artistic intent. I say fix whatever audio you can without altering the actual content.

For Originals and 1999 Super Deluxe, they added reverb using personal taste as a guide. The song "If It'll Make U Happy" from 1999 SD is virtually unlistenable. The boot I have is better.

Exactly, they just flip flop and make arguments they contradict with the next release. "Maintain artistic intent---now let's pile on some reverb that was never the artist's intent" to "'personal taste' as a guide, when even the most impersonal taste could tell the tapes sounded flat out wrong".

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