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Reply #30 posted 07/30/20 8:42pm

kewlschool

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RODSERLING said:

kewlschool said:

Not cost effective. Besides, they are probably working on Parade Super Deluxe for next year. Gold Experience wont get a re-release until the legal suit is resolved. (TMBGITW law suit).

The Sony re releases sellls like 20.000 worldwide, divided by 12 tracks the claimer of the rights would get like 100 dollars. I can't believe this is what holding Gold to be re-released.

I think they want their percentages from all forms of money generated by the TMBGITW starting with the original maxi-single and the Gold experience album release. Not just the reissue.

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Reply #31 posted 07/30/20 9:01pm

RODSERLING

kewlschool said:



RODSERLING said:


kewlschool said:

Not cost effective. Besides, they are probably working on Parade Super Deluxe for next year. Gold Experience wont get a re-release until the legal suit is resolved. (TMBGITW law suit).



The Sony re releases sellls like 20.000 worldwide, divided by 12 tracks the claimer of the rights would get like 100 dollars. I can't believe this is what holding Gold to be re-released.

I think they want their percentages from all forms of money generated by the TMBGITW starting with the original maxi-single and the Gold experience album release. Not just the reissue.



Yes, of course but :
1) You can't prevent a song to be released, plagiarism or not, it belongs to the estate, Sony...
2) A physical re release won't change the calculations for the royalties since 1994.
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There was a 15 years legal battle for Jackson's You Are Not Alone about plagiarism.
This never prevented the song to be released on History, Number Ones, The Essential, Ultimate Collection, King of Pop...So in itself the song sold about 45 millions albums/singles worldwide, much more than TMBGITW.
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Moreover, the terrible version on Gold is far from the original version, which is closer to the song that is supposed to be plagiarized.
And surely this is why there is this terrible remix on Gold instead of the original single.
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Reply #32 posted 07/31/20 12:50am

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At the risk of being off topic, releasing another superdeluxe box set before the end of 2020 would seem to be a very poorly adapted strategy to meet the times.

-Streaming and internet delivery are functional and ubiquitous at the moment worldwide.

-manufacturing and distribution of box sets of records or CDS internationally is logistically more difficult now than at about any other time for the last 100 years.

-The stakeholders (Estate , Warners, Sony) should partner with an existing international music streaming service, and deliver paid streams and downloads to a uniquely captive audience.

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Reply #33 posted 07/31/20 1:42am

The777Man

andrewm7 said:

At the risk of being off topic, releasing another superdeluxe box set before the end of 2020 would seem to be a very poorly adapted strategy to meet the times.

-Streaming and internet delivery are functional and ubiquitous at the moment worldwide.

-manufacturing and distribution of box sets of records or CDS internationally is logistically more difficult now than at about any other time for the last 100 years.

-The stakeholders (Estate , Warners, Sony) should partner with an existing international music streaming service, and deliver paid streams and downloads to a uniquely captive audience.

I understand your point but strongly disagree from a fan perspective.

I much prefer CDs to just downloads. It's also great to get the booklet with detailed info and also trivia and comments by people involved with making the album like Susan Rogers, The Revolution members for the Purple Rain Deluxe etc.

I think there's enough demand still for this special type of release. Like I said earlier, I hope there's a Super Deluxe release for every of his regular physical relesase except for perhaps N.E.W.S. I would love even a Musiclogy Super Deluxe with the same format; CD, Singles and B-sides, Vault songs, live album and live DVD.

Hopefully we will get a few more of the Super Deluxes. Parade has been rumored for awhile and perhaps Batman and Graffiti Bridge as well since Warner holds the rights to those albums. Anything else is unfortunatly unlikely due to Sony taking over the rights to the albums but don't have rights for the vault material.

We will see what happens.

The777Man

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Reply #34 posted 08/01/20 6:35am

udo

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I'm predicting a December 2020 release... either another Originals, something live, or some kind of dumb one-off a la P&M83

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I will preorder some popcorn to see what they make of these this time.

But I do hope for the best.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #35 posted 08/04/20 2:17am

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HamsterHuey said:

Wasn't the Singles Box enough of a surprise? Was for my wallet, so I had to bow out, as I am just an Average Joe that just bought the Super Deluxe set on vinyl. So... no more releases this year or I'll be REALLY cross.

No it was not.

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Reply #36 posted 08/04/20 10:10am

yukoncornelius

No

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Reply #37 posted 08/04/20 10:27am

fortuneandsere
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I prefer the Prince Vault Youtube way of doing things. Albums compiled as albums that you can edit down, rearrange to your liking. A proper album feels like a good friend. Super Deluxe editions feel like an untrustworthy friend who's after your money. Dats just me doe, foe. First world problems, eh?

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Reply #38 posted 08/04/20 11:17am

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cosmoplastic said:

HamsterHuey said:

Wasn't the Singles Box enough of a surprise? Was for my wallet, so I had to bow out, as I am just an Average Joe that just bought the Super Deluxe set on vinyl. So... no more releases this year or I'll be REALLY cross.

No it was not.

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Reply #39 posted 08/04/20 11:45am

fortuneandsere
ndipity

The777Man said:

I understand your point but strongly disagree from a fan perspective.

I much prefer CDs to just downloads. It's also great to get the booklet with detailed info and also trivia and comments by people involved with making the album like Susan Rogers, The Revolution members for the Purple Rain Deluxe etc.

I think there's enough demand still for this special type of release. Like I said earlier, I hope there's a Super Deluxe release for every of his regular physical relesase except for perhaps N.E.W.S. I would love even a Musiclogy Super Deluxe with the same format; CD, Singles and B-sides, Vault songs, live album and live DVD.

Hopefully we will get a few more of the Super Deluxes. Parade has been rumored for awhile and perhaps Batman and Graffiti Bridge as well since Warner holds the rights to those albums. Anything else is unfortunatly unlikely due to Sony taking over the rights to the albums but don't have rights for the vault material.

We will see what happens.

The777Man


20ten deluxe only, in keeping with the artist's original vision. Prince would not have given these deluxe editions his blessing.

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Reply #40 posted 08/04/20 1:03pm

namepeace

kewlschool said:

Not cost effective. Besides, they are probably working on Parade Super Deluxe for next year. Gold Experience wont get a re-release until the legal suit is resolved. (TMBGITW law suit).


Parade is 35 in 2021 so that could work.

I wonder how much overlap Parade SDE would share with SOTT SDE. I suppose Parade SDE would cover post-ATWIAD and pre-Parade outtakes and unreleased material? Maybe we'd get the Detroit show or one of the Wembley show(s) for the live content?

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