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Thread started 07/28/20 1:45pm

lust

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Who’s decision was it to omit D.M.S.R from the first release on C.D?

I know it was a space issue.

D.M.S.R. SERIOUSLY?
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Reply #1 posted 07/28/20 1:49pm

SoulAlive

lol I remember seeing that CD in a record store and I didn't buy it."DMSR" is one of the best tracks!

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Reply #2 posted 07/28/20 2:06pm

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SoulAlive said:

lol I remember seeing that CD in a record store and I didn't buy it."DMSR" is one of the best tracks!



When I was starting out, that’s what I got. Didn’t even know the song for ages. Assumed it must have been shit if they dropped it. 😂
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Reply #3 posted 07/28/20 2:07pm

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Reply #4 posted 07/28/20 2:08pm

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They should have dropped Free or International Lover instead of D.M.S.R.

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Reply #5 posted 07/28/20 3:38pm

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I'm never sure why that song, but a song was dropped because CDs originally only held 74 minutes of music. It wasn't until they held 80 minutes that it was repressed and "DMSR" was added back to the tracklist.

I mean, they could have cut "Let's Pretend We're Married" or even shortened "Automatic" a bit. Who knows, could've just been WB that made the decision and Prince OK'd it.

I own copies of both versions of the CD.

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Reply #6 posted 07/28/20 8:19pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

I'm never sure why that song, but a song was dropped because CDs originally only held 74 minutes of music. It wasn't until they held 80 minutes that it was repressed and "DMSR" was added back to the tracklist.

I mean, they could have cut "Let's Pretend We're Married" or even shortened "Automatic" a bit. Who knows, could've just been WB that made the decision and Prince OK'd it.

I own copies of both versions of the CD.



Same. I have both and now it’s really amazing because I thought I’d check to see if the first issue with the missing track has any collector’s value. And it turns out, it’s worth fuck all!
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Reply #7 posted 07/29/20 12:46am

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TrivialPursuit said:



I mean, they could have cut "Let's Pretend We're Married"


They really couldn't. That was a single.

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Reply #8 posted 07/29/20 1:39am

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I have the 10-track CD as well! One thing that doesn’t make sense is that the album with all 11 tracks is just over 70 minutes. Maybe early CDs couldn’t hold 74 minutes?

A possible reason “D.M.S.R.” was removed is that it appeared on the Risky Business soundtrack.

For a time, the tracklist of 1999 was different for the CD, cassette, and vinyl editions of the album!
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Reply #9 posted 07/30/20 1:39pm

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Since Prince was the producer it was probably his choice.

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Reply #10 posted 07/30/20 1:44pm

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Moonbeam said:

I have the 10-track CD as well! One thing that doesn’t make sense is that the album with all 11 tracks is just over 70 minutes. Maybe early CDs couldn’t hold 74 minutes? A possible reason “D.M.S.R.” was removed is that it appeared on the Risky Business soundtrack. For a time, the tracklist of 1999 was different for the CD, cassette, and vinyl editions of the album!

...that's gotta be it...

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Reply #11 posted 07/30/20 2:50pm

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They should have dropped Free or International Lover instead of D.M.S.R.

eek International Lover. He'll no, that's one of my favourites. biggrin

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Reply #12 posted 07/30/20 4:52pm

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Cindy said:

funkaholic1972 said:

They should have dropped Free or International Lover instead of D.M.S.R.

eek International Lover. He'll no, that's one of my favourites. biggrin

Let's drop Free in that case! lol

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Reply #13 posted 07/30/20 5:26pm

Cindy

funkaholic1972 said:

Cindy said:

eek International Lover. He'll no, that's one of my favourites. biggrin

Let's drop Free in that case! lol

I'll buy that. thumbs up!

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Reply #14 posted 07/30/20 6:43pm

mbdtyler

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They should have dropped Free or International Lover instead of D.M.S.R.

"Free" has to be one of the worst songs he recorded in the 80's, idk why he put that out instead of "Moonbeam Levels"

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Reply #15 posted 07/30/20 7:10pm

SoulAlive

I will never understand why so many of you dislike “Free”.I love that song! music great melody,great message.
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Reply #16 posted 07/30/20 9:11pm

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That they would cut even one song was a grave insult. Produce two CDs if you have to buy don’t edit a brilliant landmark album like 1999. They would never think of cutting The White Album, Physical Graffiti, The Wall, Quadrophenia, Songs in the Key of Life or any other landmark double album. But with Prince it was no big deal. And one of the key cuts, DMSR. Stuff like that really bugs me.
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Reply #17 posted 07/30/20 11:18pm

SoulAlive

^^ I totally agree.They could have just made it a 2-CD set.Removing *any* song to save space is absolutely ridiculous.
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Reply #18 posted 07/31/20 3:40am

Krid

Was there not also a single LP version of 1999?

I think it was as follows:

Side A:

1999

Little Red Corvette

Delirious

Free

Side B:

Let's Pretend We're Married

Something in the Water (Does not Compute)

Lady Cab Driver

So, did Prince chose those songs as being the "best" / "most commercial"? Or WB? Did other artists also have this, that double LPs were cut down to single LPs? Were they sold seperately in parallel, or only the single LP (e.g. Europe got the single LP, while US has the double?)

Strange...

[Edited 7/31/20 3:41am]

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Reply #19 posted 07/31/20 3:49am

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fms said:

That they would cut even one song was a grave insult. Produce two CDs if you have to buy don’t edit a brilliant landmark album like 1999. They would never think of cutting The White Album, Physical Graffiti, The Wall, Quadrophenia, Songs in the Key of Life or any other landmark double album. But with Prince it was no big deal. And one of the key cuts, DMSR. Stuff like that really bugs me.

I'd argue it's even cut into its legacy as a double album like the other records you mention. I rarely see if emphasized like it is when discussing all those other records, even like it is when references/reviews are made to Sign O the Times. To me it seems obvious a generation grew up with the single-disc CD so they think of it as a single album.

[Edited 7/31/20 3:50am]

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Reply #20 posted 07/31/20 4:44am

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Krid said:

Was there not also a single LP version of 1999?



I think it was as follows:



Side A:


1999


Little Red Corvette


Delirious


Free



Side B:


Let's Pretend We're Married


Something in the Water (Does not Compute)


Lady Cab Driver





So, did Prince chose those songs as being the "best" / "most commercial"? Or WB? Did other artists also have this, that double LPs were cut down to single LPs? Were they sold seperately in parallel, or only the single LP (e.g. Europe got the single LP, while US has the double?)



Strange...



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The double lp was released in Europe in october 1982 and the single lp in march 1983. The idea was to increase sales, but it didn't really help. The album didn't sell well when it was first released.
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Reply #21 posted 07/31/20 12:09pm

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WhisperingDandelions said:



fms said:


That they would cut even one song was a grave insult. Produce two CDs if you have to buy don’t edit a brilliant landmark album like 1999. They would never think of cutting The White Album, Physical Graffiti, The Wall, Quadrophenia, Songs in the Key of Life or any other landmark double album. But with Prince it was no big deal. And one of the key cuts, DMSR. Stuff like that really bugs me.

I'd argue it's even cut into its legacy as a double album like the other records you mention. I rarely see if emphasized like it is when discussing all those other records, even like it is when references/reviews are made to Sign O the Times. To me it seems obvious a generation grew up with the single-disc CD so they think of it as a single album.

[Edited 7/31/20 3:50am]



Good point. Whilst I know it’s a “double album”, it’s a single album in my head.
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Reply #22 posted 08/01/20 2:32am

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I read in a book (I can't recall which one) that the decision was Prince's.

Afaik, CDs could always hold 74 mins, so it perplexed me that that they wouldn't have included a 4 minute edit of it.

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Reply #23 posted 08/01/20 10:13am

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It makes no sense. DSMR is one of 1999's setpiece tracks and it sort of ties the whole sound together. Free is one of the worst Prince songs of the 80s.

While we're at it, Moonbeam Levels should have made it in place of Free.

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Reply #24 posted 08/02/20 9:34am

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It makes no sense. DSMR is one of 1999's setpiece tracks and it sort of ties the whole sound together. Free is one of the worst Prince songs of the 80s.

While we're at it, Moonbeam Levels should have made it in place of Free.

Yeah, Free never did it for me.

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Reply #25 posted 08/02/20 10:21am

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I really don't get the hate for Free.

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Reply #26 posted 08/02/20 10:39am

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I really don't get the hate for Free.

I don't either confuse it's a great song!

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Reply #27 posted 08/02/20 2:11pm

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IAdoreWeronika said:

I really don't get the hate for Free.

I don't hate it, but it has never been a favorite either. It would certainly be my pick to be booted off 1999 so DMSR (which I believe is a much better track) could be included.

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Reply #28 posted 08/02/20 3:21pm

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IAdoreWeronika said:

I really don't get the hate for Free.

It's just a corny and non-essential ballad compared to other tracks that Prince was writing during that time period. I appreciate the message he was trying to convey (mostly; it feels vaguely preachy in a "you shouldn't complain about your struggles when others probably have it much worse!" kind of way) but it's one of the most skippable parts of 1999.

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