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funkbabyandthe
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where you disappointed when prince named album projects, websites and songs the dawn?

When he used to write MAY U LIVE 2 C THE DAWN I always thought it would be a special day, a new era, not a website/album project/song
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/20 10:05am

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I just thought of it as a slogan, like "live 4 love"

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Reply #2 posted 10/17/20 10:06am

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funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

When he used to write MAY U LIVE 2 C THE DAWN I always thought it would be a special day, a new era, not a website/album project/song

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i get the feeling The Dawn was more of a spiritual thing. so when he named a website the dawn, no... i had no thought whatsoever that it was "the dawn" he hoped we would live to see, so therefore no disappointment.

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Reply #3 posted 10/17/20 10:21am

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'May u live to see...my new website yall'
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/20 11:33am

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I did often wonder whether it was a long game thing; that we would one day see some form of project that was "the Dawn". And then he released the song and it turned out it was a long game, at all...just another his passing phrases.

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Reply #5 posted 10/17/20 11:46am

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There were several configurations of The Dawn album over the years. The 1997 tracklist remains completely unreleased to my awareness, though we obviously heard an acoustic version of the title track on 'The Truth' album.
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/20 11:54am

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OperatingThetan said:

There were several configurations of The Dawn album over the years. The 1997 tracklist remains completely unreleased to my awareness, though we obviously heard an acoustic version of the title track on 'The Truth' album.


As far as I know, no actual tracklist is known. For any of them.
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Reply #7 posted 10/17/20 1:44pm

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'May u live to... hear my new album'
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Reply #8 posted 10/17/20 2:39pm

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I was a little bit disappointed because I felt it de-mystified or cheapened the concept of "The Dawn", whatever that meant to the individual fan. I think it should´ve stayed a spiritual slogan rather than a website or album. No album or song or website could ever live up to the idea of The Dawn.

Then again, he used that slogan so often that it HAD to turn into something more than a slogan one day.

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Reply #9 posted 10/17/20 3:09pm

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No it didn't

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Reply #10 posted 10/18/20 3:51am

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I understand the feeling of it being demystified. This is what Prince was prone to doing though, cannibalising a previous concept on a whim for a new one, especially during the prince years.

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Reply #11 posted 10/18/20 7:46am

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I always felt that it was a spiritual thing, like one would finally wake up one day and everything would make sense in 'this thing called Life'. As for the song 'The Dawn', to me it was another stepping stone towards the journey of enlightenment, not the entire answer. It didn't de-mystify the concept for me at all. It brought a smile to my face when I first heard it and it still does.

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Reply #12 posted 10/18/20 10:32am

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"May you live to see the dawn" was only written on the Purple Rain album (or during the Purple Rain era), iirc. He should have called the followup album the dawn, but when he didn't, it became a thing. And since Prince loved extra expectations for releases, he wanted to use the latent desire for "the dawn" later on... not disappointed he did, just logical, from a business point of view. And since he never actually released a "dawn" project, it was something he kept coming back to. (which was disappointing)

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Reply #13 posted 10/18/20 10:39am

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"May you live to see the dawn" was only written on the Purple Rain album (or during the Purple Rain era), iirc. He should have called the followup album the dawn, but when he didn't, it became a thing. And since Prince loved extra expectations for releases, he wanted to use the latent desire for "the dawn" later on... not disappointed he did, just logical, from a business point of view. And since he never actually released a "dawn" project, it was something he kept coming back to. (which was disappointing)

The phrase also appears at the end of the credits in the Sign O The Times movie.

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Reply #14 posted 10/19/20 8:20am

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I didn't realise until reading it in Karlen's book that the 3 Chains "O" Gold video project was tentatively called The Dawn at one point. I'm very glad that changed. It's a fun watch, but if that had been the actual near-mythical self-hyped Dawn that I'd lived 2 see I'd have been sorely disappointed.

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Reply #15 posted 10/19/20 9:13am

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The only thing I can say is in all this time it never occurred to me that P was usually up to see daybreak and make that correlation between that and his use of the word Dawn all the time. None of his associates ever mentioned him showing interest in seeing the first light of day. shrug I assume all his thousands, 10s of thousands of fans named dawn had fun with it. Outside of that I just took it as his spiritual thing.
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Reply #16 posted 10/19/20 10:59am

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"May U live 2 C the dawn" is what we in copywriting and/or marketing call a tagline. Why would anyone be disappointed about that? confuse

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